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828 messages, Last post on Oct 03, 2009 at 9:40 PM
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Replying to: waygrabow (Aug 27, 2008 7:46 pm) Having said that, the model I drove had an estimated price of about $48k, and IMHO that's crazy. The 2.0T model will surely be a lot more affordable, and that engine actually makes more torque than the V6 does. I didn't get to drive one, but I'd lean towards that engine. At the same event we got to sample a Lexus IS230 AWD (comfy, but very soft), a Benz E300 4Matic (solid brakes, but disappointing handling), the A4, and a BMW 328xi. The Bimmer had the best handling, but it's close in price to the Audi, and that's with the base engine, so it won't get much cheaper. I think the strong euro/weak dollar may leave you with a bit of sticker shock when you go shopping for the 2009s. I'd add a few others to your list - the 2009 TL-S will have SH-AWD. Also, the G35x from Infiniti. Finally, for a budget buy, check out a Subaru Legacy GT Limited, or even a spec.B model. That kind of money lets you buy a lot of very nice cars. Good luck shopping.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 28, 2008 6:00 am) |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 28, 2008 6:00 am) If my choices were limited to AWD cars I would also look at the Evo MR as well as the STi. The Spec B is another excellent pick. I found a very clean 2005 Audi CPO S4 for just $31900, but unfortunately it was a slushbox... 
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Replying to: roadburner (Aug 28, 2008 12:06 pm) Try them out, though. Can't hurt, plus it'll be fun. 
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 28, 2008 12:54 pm) If they're TOO sporty, then he's TOO old. 
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Replying to: roadburner (Aug 28, 2008 2:27 pm)
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Replying to: waygrabow (Aug 28, 2008 4:08 pm) The MazdaSpeed3 is very nice, but no AWD. IMHO that's too much power for the front wheels alone, so much that early models had engines shaking out of their cradles due to wheel hop on acceleration. Doesn't Mazda even limit boost in 1st and 2nd gear? Give it AWD, Mazda!
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 29, 2008 7:55 am) No, the problem was a motor mount. A revised one was issued and the problem has only resurfaced with heavily modded cars and/cars that are drag raced. Doesn't Mazda even limit boost in 1st and 2nd gear? Yes, and boost is also dependent on the steering angle. Give it AWD, Mazda! I much prefer RWD cars; I bought a Mazdaspeed3 because I thought a little FWD experience would be helpful when I instruct students who have FWD cars at HPDEs. It's been kind of fun learning how to drive a FWD car properly, but I'll probably flip it for an E46 M3 in the near future. AWD is fine but it's not my first choice- unless it's a really, REALLY performance/track oriented sled like the Evo or STi.
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Replying to: roadburner (Aug 29, 2008 10:07 am) So how would you rate your preference? RWD, then AWD, then FWD? Depends? I prefer AWD, then RWD, then FWD, in that order Funny thing is I own one of each!
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Replying to: waygrabow (Aug 27, 2008 7:46 pm) However, I just put $2,300 into the computer control module for the CVT; mechanically should be okay. (I hope). I'm going to bet that that A4 lasts a lot longer and will keep it and replace the timing belt chain at 100K miles. However, I will be giving it to my daughters to drive because the resale value isn't anything worthwhile and I'd rather the kids drive it then spend even more money for an unknown used car. For me, I will consider the new A4 2.0T but I have already spent a day with the new 2009 Acura TSX. It was a loaner I got when my wife's MDX was being serviced. I really like the TSX. Roomier than the current A4, drove nice, roomy. It is much smoother, quieter and has better gas mileage than the last TSX. It is also A LOT less than the A4. I am definitely considering getting one. I'd recommend test driving one. The sticker is thousands less than the A4 sticker, just one of the dealers in Cleveland has a lot in stock and the Internet price was much less than MSRP. Its worth a look. Hertz gave me a Volvo S80 for 3 days on a recent trip. I really liked that too; very different from the Audi. I think the CTS is worth a look too. Let us know what you get.
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