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#63 of 828 Re: Plenty of 'em [rsholland] by esf Apr 18, 2005 (7:04 pm)
Replying to: rsholland (Mar 08, 2005 8:03 am) The S4 is obviously the best- I mean, it literally has no competition. I mean, think of another V8 sports sedan in the $40K-50K range, with AWD, that is the S4's size! There's nothing! But, if you have the green, wait a little and see if you want to sprint for the RS4 before the waiting list exceeds the building capacity. But, the S4 delivers an incredible experience. We drove two sedans and one convertible, and got the convertible because I just wanted that open-air feeling. The S4 delivers a truly amazing ride, though. It sounds like one of the American muscle cars with that V8, without trying too hard like a Benz C 55 AMG. It sounds so creamy, I just wanted to rev it in the parking lot before I drove off, but I refrained from that temptation. It has more luxury, coolness, exclusivity, and understated style than any M3 you'd dust from a stoplight, all for at least $3K less. What do you say? Hint: S4.
#64 of 828 S4 driver's delight by las4 Apr 18, 2005 (7:40 pm)
Having just sold my 2000 S4 and leased a new 2005 S4 Avant, I have to agree (maybe I'm a little prejudiced) that the S4 is one of the finest road cars I've ever driven. Now what to do to replace my wife's 330ci...I want the RS4 now!
#65 of 828 Audi Reliability? by mikenk Apr 19, 2005 (3:03 am)
Quote from ESF "I really think that the A4 you had was just a lemon, I mean, Audi is easily the top German carmaker in quality and reliability, only behind Lexus, Toyota, and Honda/Acura (tied), in that order."   Yikes!! Where did that come from? Audi undoubtedly makes some nice cars - both to look at and drive, but long term reliability is not their strength - not even close to Toyota, Honda, Subaru, or even Ford for that matter. My data is from the latest issue of Consumer Reports, which as far as I know is the only statistically accurate source concerning long term reliability. Replies to this message: esf (Apr 21, 2005 1:51 pm)
#66 of 828 what about the Volvo S40? by allwheeldriv3 Apr 19, 2005 (9:52 am)
most of this thread talks about the A4, but only once(msg #62) has anyone even mentioned the S40. i recently drove both and opted for the S40. the audi seemed overpriced simply because it was an audi. it's true the S40's AWD is front biased, but that only saves gas.....it kicks in when required and so fast that it is totally unnoticable. the S40 T5 is faster than the A4 1.8T and has higher safety standards. the dolby surround sound system kicks in the S40. to top all this off the volvo is thousands of $ less expensive. in my opinion the S40 looks better than the A4 as well. please admin add the S40 to the "What is this discussion about?" list of this thread. after all, it did recieve second place for World Car of the Year behind the A6 this year..... Replies to this message: esf (Apr 21, 2005 1:54 pm) allwheeldriv3 (Apr 21, 2005 6:05 pm) esf (Apr 23, 2005 8:04 pm) and 1 more... pat (Apr 22, 2005 6:19 am) allwheeldriv3 (Apr 22, 2005 6:44 am)
#67 of 828 S40 T5 by ateixeira Apr 19, 2005 (9:56 am)
Nice car, but is it ultimate in any way?   Not really. We're not talking about the A4 1.8T, we're talking about the V8 S4 and even the RS4. Those are ultimate.   S40 T5 is merely "great".   -juice
#68 of 828 Re: Audi Reliability? [mikenk] by esf Apr 21, 2005 (1:51 pm)
Replying to: mikenk (Apr 19, 2005 3:03 am) I might've overdid it a little... sorry. But, they are the most reliable German car company, and that's for sure. I also just remembered that Hyundai and Kia are better than the Germans. Whatever, because I really don't see any serious technical problems with Audi. I got my data from J.D.Power. Ford is worse than Audi in reliability in most places, and you may be thinking of durability, which is far better in America than any German carmaker. I don't disagree with you about the others, though. Probably the only Japanese car that's worse than Audi is Daihatsu!
#69 of 828 Re: what about the Volvo S40? [allwheeldriv3] by esf Apr 21, 2005 (1:54 pm)
Replying to: allwheeldriv3 (Apr 19, 2005 9:52 am) No one mentions the S40 because they're not the A4's competition (Not quite as high class or as big), and this is an Audi forum, not Volvo. Their only similarities are all-wheel-drive, having four doors, an engine, and a trunk. Replies to this message: allwheeldriv3 (Apr 21, 2005 6:05 pm) esf (Apr 23, 2005 8:04 pm) swedishiron1 (Apr 25, 2005 8:45 am) pat (Apr 22, 2005 6:19 am) allwheeldriv3 (Apr 22, 2005 6:44 am)
#70 of 828 Re: what about the Volvo S40? [esf] by allwheeldriv3 Apr 21, 2005 (6:05 pm)
Replying to: esf (Apr 21, 2005 1:54 pm) u must be smoking something....the S40 directly competes with the A4 and beats it in everything except rear seat leg room.... Replies to this message: esf (Apr 23, 2005 8:04 pm) swedishiron1 (Apr 25, 2005 8:45 am)
#71 of 828 which S40 competes with S4 ? by krzyss Apr 22, 2005 (4:36 am)
Please tell me as I do not know.   Krzys Replies to this message: allwheeldriv3 (Apr 22, 2005 5:46 am)
#72 of 828 Re: which S40 competes with S4 ? [krzyss] by allwheeldriv3 Apr 22, 2005 (5:46 am)
Replying to: krzyss (Apr 22, 2005 4:36 am) i never said anything about the S4....

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