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What is this discussion about? BMW 3 Series, Audi A4, Volvo S60 R, Subaru Legacy, Audi S4, Mazda MAZDASPEED MAZDA6, Sedan


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Re: Audi #1 AWD [ateixeira] by shipo
Jun 14, 2007 (6:17 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 11, 2007 10:20 am)

"They may have been the first to mass market an AWD car, though. I never thought of them as a 4WD pioneer."
 
Hmmm, call me nuts but didn't AMC offer a jacked up "Hi-Rider" version of their butt ugly Eagle sedan with AWD back in the late 1970s?
 
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Shipo
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Re: Audi #1 AWD [shipo] by kyfdx HOST
Jun 14, 2007 (7:39 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 14, 2007 6:17 pm)

I think that car was all Jeep CJ-5, underneath..
 
So, if you don't mind part-time 4WD with a transfer case, I guess you could call it an AWD sedan..
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Re: Audi #1 AWD [shipo] by ateixeira
Jun 20, 2007 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 14, 2007 6:17 pm)

AMC came in the late 80s, but Subaru had a GL wagon with full locking 4WD and a raised suspension way, way back in 1973. They came first by half a decade.
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Re: Audi #1 AWD [ateixeira] by qbrozen
Jun 20, 2007 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 20, 2007 11:19 am)

Eagle was 1980, actually.
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Re: Audi #1 AWD [qbrozen] by ateixeira
Jun 20, 2007 (11:59 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jun 20, 2007 11:23 am)

7 years later, wow. Subaru by a long shot.
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Re: Audi #1 AWD [ateixeira] by qbrozen
Jun 20, 2007 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 20, 2007 11:59 am)

How liberal in the description are we talking?
 
Willys had a 4wd "station wagon" back in 1947.
They aren't particularly tall, but taller than a subie or eagle, so maybe just a very early SUV.
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Re: Audi #1 AWD [qbrozen] by ateixeira
Jun 20, 2007 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jun 20, 2007 12:29 pm)

That's still a truck.
 
Subaru was first to do it on a car platform. Then AMC.
 
Audi was first to employ full-time AWD, I believe.
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Re: Audi #1 AWD [ateixeira] by lilengineerboy
Jun 20, 2007 (1:08 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 20, 2007 12:38 pm)

When did the RT4WD Civic wag-o-van thing start showing up? It was mid-80s I believe, like '86 maybe? Toyota had a 4wd Corolla wagon (but I can't remember if that was pre-86) and Camry, and the Dodge Colt Vista (and other Mitsubihis) could be 4wd, as could the Tempo. I have an old Motor Trend that did a small 4wd wagons comparison test (and I think a type 85 Audi 4000Q and 5000TQ might have been in that issue too).
 
By the 90s, with cars like the Diamond Stars, AWD was pretty well integrated.
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Add the MazdaSpeed6 by waygrabow
Aug 02, 2007 (7:04 pm)
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If the Subaru Legacy is considered an Ultimate AWD sports sedan, then I can't understand why the Mazdaspeed6 would not also qualify for this category. The two are closely matched.
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2001 S4 FTW! by s4orcenj
Aug 09, 2007 (4:30 am)
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2001 Audi B5 S4 FTW!!!!!! and i will defend it till the day i die!!! you get speed and luxary and your BOOSTIN baby!!

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