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Sedans Ultimate AWD Sports Sedans
828 messages, Last post on Oct 03, 2009 at 9:40 PM
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 04, 2006 9:28 am)
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Replying to: dhanley (Dec 14, 2006 9:08 pm) and, to keep it somewhat on topic, why did you decide on a RWD car?
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Replying to: qbrozen (Dec 15, 2006 7:01 am) I went with RWD because i think you need snow tires in any case, and i feel that RWD+snows is perfectly adequate, as i'm not climbing icy mountians. IMO DSC keeps you safe, not AWD. And, yes, the 335xi may qualify for this topic. |
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Replying to: dhanley (Dec 15, 2006 3:06 pm) I would like to ask the hosts if they can add any light to possibility of a track test of the '06-'07 AWD vs. RWD 3series. I see some comparos with the Carrera 4 vs. 4s and others where awd actually outperforms the rwd model. Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Dec 16, 2006 6:51 am) |
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Replying to: circlew (Dec 16, 2006 6:51 am) It’s hard to compare the Porsches with the 3-series because of the striking difference in weight balance. The 911s are tough to handle in turns as you approach the limits because of its extreme rear weight bias and the AWD mitigates this by putting weight up front. AWD will perform better in corners because of its ability to add pull through them but there is still the weight tradeoff. That extra 242 pounds in the 328i vs 328xi is a lot. The difference in the C2S vs C4S is only 121 pounds and the Porsches weigh considerably less to begin with. But remember, the thing that makes the 911 AWD so desirable to some is the “improved” weight balance and tempering of the oversteer. This is not the case with the BMWs which go from virtually neutral to front bias.
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Replying to: designman (Dec 16, 2006 7:48 am) you make excellent points as does shipo and habitat. I really want to test the c4s which is possibly ultimate awd at the end of the day. In March I will be all over the 335xi to see the next iteration in turbo dress. Just a point, the x-drive and electronic nannys are not intrusive together in this package on the north side of rational driving. The combination really works well, IMO. Wet traction defies logic! Regards, OW |
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Replying to: dhanley (Dec 15, 2006 3:06 pm) I agree about the options. When I priced one, I believe the only option I found I would really like was the cold weather and smartkey thing. Although metallic paint would probably be on there, too. |
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I'd like to start a discusssion on manual transmission cars that can hit about100 MPH in the 1/4 mile. I looked at the website but can't figure out how to start a new one. I'm thinking BMW 335i, Mustang GT, Acura TL type S, Infinity G35 and the like with a maximum sticker price of around $50,000. What others are available with manual transmissions (the kind with the clutch pedal on the floor, remember)? In the market for one, preferably new '06 or '07. AWD is not a requirement.
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