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What is this discussion about? BMW 3 Series, Audi A4, Volvo S60 R, Subaru Legacy, Audi S4, Mazda MAZDASPEED MAZDA6, Sedan

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#362 of 855 335xi Coupe by esf

Nov 29, 2006 (8:58 pm)

Thanks, dhanley. I'd be very excited if it came out within two years. Knowing BMW, it will.
 
However, there are four new models in the mix that will shake the exec. coupe segment up. BMW has always been virtually alone here. G35 coupe wasn't nice enough, CLK was too nice, A4 only came in convertible.
 
New models, in order of introduction:
 
2008 A5. This is a very significant car for Audi, as it's the first on their new modular platform system. We've heard the hype- no nose-heaviness, seven-speed DSG, rear-biased quattro, no more VW-based Audis... I'm excited to see if this all comes true.
 
2008 G35 Coupe? This could come out before the A5, but I don't think so. Promises to be nicer.
 
2009 Mercedes CLK. This will probably be around the same price as it is now, but the others have caught up (almost), so it's not too expensive any more. Hopefully it will give Mercedes a more powerful standard V-6 to stay with the competition and close the gap on the overpriced (but hugely fast) CLK550.
 
???? Lexus IS Coupe. All I hear are rumors. Maybe it'll actually come out.
 
As this is an AWD forum, I think the most significant to us will be the A5. And I honestly do think that the new A4/A5 will be the first all-out 3 Series fighter ever. G35 wasn't refined enough, IS wasn't sporty enough, C-Class just wasn't enough, but the A4 always got "close". I have a feeling the new one, on the new platform and with promised new engines (like a new V-8 in the S5 that is supposed to debut on the 2010 A8), will be the first in a crowd of pretenders.
 
'06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330

#363 of 855 Re: 335xi Coupe [esf] by circlew

Nov 30, 2006 (6:49 am)

Replying to: esf (Nov 29, 2006 8:58 pm)
Good stuff, esf...I will test drive the 335xi and the A5 when they arrive.
 
I like it!

#364 of 855 Let's just hope by dhamilton

Dec 01, 2006 (8:38 am)

that they still offer a stick on the new MLP cars. Do you think it will be here in 07, as an 08?

#365 of 855 Re: AWD vs. FWD on Volvo S60 by voxboy

Dec 03, 2006 (10:03 am)

Replying to: circlew (Nov 27, 2006 12:20 pm)
Can anyone enlighten me on this? Consumer Reports gives the Volvo S60 FWD an above-average reliability rating, while it gives the AWD model a below-average reliability rating. Logic dictates that this gap in customer satisfaction is 100% AWD-related. But is that truly the case? What sort of problems should I expect and how severe and/or frequent are the issues that arise? I need to understand if the AWD S60 is going to be a reliability headache.

#366 of 855 Re: AWD vs. FWD on Volvo S60 [voxboy] by themugster

Dec 03, 2006 (2:20 pm)

Replying to: voxboy (Dec 03, 2006 10:03 am)
First I'd heard of anything like this. For what it's worth, my '04 R just turned 23K and has developed no AWD-related issues whatsoever. Of course, on the R it's standard and therefore an integral part of a pretty sophisticated performance-tuned suspension system, so I suppose it's always possible that there could be problems that arise from the bolt-on nature of AWD on the "regular" S60? Under-engineered, perhaps? Will be interested to see if anyone in this group has any experience with this.

#367 of 855 Re: AWD vs. FWD on Volvo S60 [voxboy] by ateixeira

Dec 04, 2006 (10:28 am)

Replying to: voxboy (Dec 03, 2006 10:03 am)
In general I think you can count on a Volvo to be very durable, i.e. last a long time, but I think it might need more repairs than average along the way.
 
For some reason friends of mine that have had them gave them up because of little things that kept adding up, often electrical things.
 
-juice

#368 of 855 Re: AWD vs. FWD on Volvo S60 [ateixeira] by dhanley

Dec 14, 2006 (10:08 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 04, 2006 10:28 am)
Well, i just placed an order on a 335i. I'll be euro-delivering it. Thanks for all the ideas, guys!

#369 of 855 Re: AWD vs. FWD on Volvo S60 [dhanley] by qbrozen

Dec 15, 2006 (8:01 am)

Replying to: dhanley (Dec 14, 2006 10:08 pm)
may i ask the details? Options? pricing? timeframe?
 
and, to keep it somewhat on topic, why did you decide on a RWD car?

#370 of 855 Ultimate FUTURE AWD Sports Sedan by circlew

Dec 15, 2006 (3:23 pm)

The 335xi could be the answer to this forum...

#371 of 855 Re: AWD vs. FWD on Volvo S60 [qbrozen] by dhanley

Dec 15, 2006 (4:06 pm)

Replying to: qbrozen (Dec 15, 2006 8:01 am)
Pretty basic ( for a 335i ) since most of the options i want are included ( sunroof, xenons, logic 7 sterio. ). So i just got metallic paint ( montego blue) and cold weather. I'm paying $900 over euro invoice, or $35340.
 
I went with RWD because i think you need snow tires in any case, and i feel that RWD+snows is perfectly adequate, as i'm not climbing icy mountians. IMO DSC keeps you safe, not AWD.
 
And, yes, the 335xi may qualify for this topic.

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