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juice by blueguydotcom
Mar 02, 2005 (3:23 pm)
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Have you been in the redesigned 2005 G35? sounds like you're talking about the 03-04 G35. Different ducks.
 
I made it clear I was talking about the Accord Coupe. Just popped into my head as an example of a luxurious, quick, decent car in the low 20s.
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BlueGuyDot-Honda Accord Coupe by hox
Mar 02, 2005 (7:12 pm)
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Tell me where you can find a v-6 6 speed Honda Accord coupe for $22k new? It stickers at $26,500 and only about 300 are produced for the states. If there pricing were here, they couldn't keep them on the lots anywhere. They go for 25k plus at dealers if you find them.
 
Don't get me wrong great car, not AWD, but certainly tops the RSX or TSX (Acura's).
 
Hox
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Not a problem getting one at invoice by blueguydotcom
Mar 03, 2005 (12:12 am)
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ell me where you can find a v-6 6 speed Honda Accord coupe for $22k new? It stickers at $26,500 and only about 300 are produced for the states.
 
When i was shopping for a car in 03, I got offers of 22.5k on two of them from different dealers in san diego. when helping a friend look for a car in 04, we drove a 6 speed accord v6 coupe and also got an offer of 23.5k without haggling. just standing still. shrug, i take that to mean it's no big deal.
 
If there pricing were here, they couldn't keep them on the lots anywhere. They go for 25k plus at dealers if you find them.
 
honda dealers give their cars away and every honda I've looked at always is priced at or below invoice. usually below. could be the market you're in as san diego honda dealers will bend over backward to move product.
 
Actually, I probably would take the TSX over it. Prefer the 4 door to the ugly look of the two door coupe world. I know i'd take a tsx over a 325i.
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G35 by ateixeira
Mar 03, 2005 (8:54 am)
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The last G35 I sampled was at a Lexus event last year, so I'm sure it was a 2004. Glad to hear there were improvements, I should check it out because I like the rest of the package.
 
Honda might be afraid that a 6 speed Accord sedan would cannibalize the TSX and maybe even TL.
 
-juice
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A4 VS. Subaru by civic4
Mar 03, 2005 (3:11 pm)
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I have also owned an Audi A4 1.8T. I will say it was a nice car to drive, but if you check out the problems with Audis, you would not want to keep the car past the warranty or Audi Advantage period. That is around 4 years or 50K miles. My wife and I drove the '05 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Ltd model ands were impressed with the fit and finish, especially of the interior of the car, the Audi has the exterior beat but we both agreed the interior was very impressive. We were quoted a price of $24,989 for the Ltd with automatic in a silver with black interior, we never buy on first quotes, we have a 2001 Audi A6 4.2 as our other car.
 
The Audi had started "nickel and thousanding" us to death toward the end, transmission, turbo, timing belt tensioner, leaking gaskets, gas gauge malfunction etc..., needless to say, my wife gave the stepson the keys to go to McDConalds, well, the antilock was not working and the road was a bit slick from an early morning rain, (Audi wanted $1600 to fix the main brain of the car which was the problem with the antilock), the son was too busy looking inside his McDonald's bag, and what can I say, a telephone pole jumped out in front of him....(he says it was a squirrel that jumped out and he hit the pole to avoid it last minute, but we won't argue that point....just glad the Audi preformed as it did and gave its life up for his!!)
 
We would have considered another Audi, but we tend to keep our cars longer than the warranty period, and the Audi just doesn't have the reliability record for mileage milestones. I have noticed Subaru owners do not have as many critical complaints as Audi owners....maybe we will be driving that Legacy Ltd. soon....as for our 4.2, no problems yet, and we have a 100K powertrain warranty on that vehicle, and with 43K on the odometer, we may keep her for a bit longer.
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Most Reliable Brand by ateixeira
Mar 03, 2005 (6:17 pm)
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How fitting that we've been talking about this - CR's car issue named Subaru the most reliable brand, number one for MY2004.
 
-juice
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Re: BlueGuyDot-Honda Accord Coupe [hox] by johnny420
Mar 03, 2005 (8:28 pm)
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Replying to: hox (Mar 02, 2005 7:12 pm)

"Don't get me wrong great car, not AWD, but certainly tops the RSX or TSX (Acura's)."
 
Why? Because it has more horsepower? Pretty narrow defintion of performance if you ask me.
 
Johnny
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Re: BlueGuyDot-Honda Accord Coupe [johnny420] by taxman10
Mar 04, 2005 (5:21 am)
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Replying to: johnny420 (Mar 03, 2005 8:28 pm)

I guess I'll join in on this.
I just got a A4 2.0 Quattro, 6 speed.
I've had a 1996 Outback H4 and a 2001 LL Bean H6. I put Bridgestone RE950s on the Bean and it changed personality from a dull car to one with some spirit - albeit losing some snow performance.
Before getting the A4 I was in the local Subie dealership and tested a 5 speed Legacy GT Ltd and the automatic version.
While I liked the Subie, was very familiar with them and could appreciate the distance they had come since 1996, the car is a half class below the new A4 by any measure other total HP and price.
Fully loaded I stickered at $36,700 and invoiced at $34,400. Comparably, but not quite ( x zenons, bose/sattelite, better, I think, materials, longer warranty and free maintenance, etc) equipped, the the subie is $7,000 less.
For a lot of people the tradeoffs and savings might make a difference - I wasn't sold.
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Re: BlueGuyDot-Honda Accord Coupe [johnny420] by blueguydotcom
Mar 04, 2005 (10:40 am)
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Replying to: johnny420 (Mar 03, 2005 8:28 pm)

That's to Hox, right. I prefer the TSX.
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Ultimate AWD Sports Sedans by deano2
Mar 07, 2005 (2:32 pm)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Mar 04, 2005 10:40 am)

I was just wondering whats your opinion on the best awd sports sedan?
 
Iam thinking of the Audi S4.
 
What do you think?

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