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#312 of 828 Re: Sport vs. AWD [redsoxgirl] by themugster May 11, 2006 (3:43 pm)
Not a lot of chatter pro or con about it here, but my Volvo S60 R has met all the specs (including the clients) and overcome all the objections voiced above for me, and I live in a Boston-like climate (Albany, NY). If you're committed to using real summer tires (ultra) and switching to real winter tires (like Blizzaks), you probably won't be disappointed. It's a 6-speed 300hp, turbo, twin-intercooled, with 295 ft.-lbs. torque and AWD roughly $40K w/all packages except ground fx and stereo upgrade. Turning circle with the 18" wheels is a minor sore spot, not to mention a design flaw, but then I haven't run gymkhanas since my Big Healey days of yore...and the four-piston 13" Brembos are what you get as a trade-off.
#313 of 828 Used M5 by ateixeira May 12, 2006 (6:53 am)
Sounds great given it's under warranty. Have a mechanic check it out. It's a lot of money for a used car, but it's a special car that will always hold its value.   spec.B is a good sleeper, only the hood scoop gives it away. Heated two-tone leather, moonroof, and GPS NAV are all standard so your clients won't be disappointed.   S4 is also sweet. I drove with a buddy from DC to PA and back in a cabrio, I can't imagine any client not being impressed. The V8 really pulls.   S60 R would be fun, they're a little heavy IMO but again your clients won't notice. They might even find it feels very substantial. And you can't go wrong with the Safety First message.   There are a lot of sweet AWD cars out there. And you might end up chirping the tires less than you would with a RWD equivalent, something that might seem boy-racerish to your clients.   -juice
#314 of 828 R&T comparison test by rsholland May 12, 2006 (7:05 am)
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=3280   The '06 Legacy GT spec.B won when $$$ were considered. The '07 model will have a 6-speed, and not the 5-speed that was tested here.   Bob
#315 of 828 2006 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro 6M v. 2006 BMW 325xi 6M by justin12 May 15, 2006 (12:18 pm)
I am deciding between the two. In your opinion, which one is a better car?
#316 of 828 I don't by dhamilton May 16, 2006 (5:13 am)
think BMW does all wheel drive "sport" like Audi does. Everything i've read says that the Audi wins between the 2. However, reviews are a small part of the story. Take extensive test drives in both and decide for yourself. The free maintenance on the bimmer is nice, The Audi has much better interior.  My money would be on the Audi, but it's not my money. Good luck and let us know how you did.
#317 of 828 audi driving event by dhanley May 16, 2006 (8:58 am)
I did the "steets of tomorrow" driving event here in chicago 2 weeks ago.   It was a lot of fun, i'd recommend it. You got to be a passenger in an rs4 drivern by a professional. Now, that was awfully impressive. Ultimate awd sport sedan, anyone?   The cars i got to drive were less so. The tt sure looks cool, and is pretty nice inside, but handles nowhere near as well as the boxster i had driven a few weeks previously. The other cars (a6,a3) were major understeerers, but it was funny when my girlfriend drove over a whole row of cones.   dave Replies to this message: ateixeira (May 16, 2006 9:20 am)
#318 of 828 Re: audi driving event [dhanley] by ateixeira May 16, 2006 (9:20 am)
Replying to: dhanley (May 16, 2006 8:58 am) They're not coming to DC which is a major bummer. I heard the "hell ride" you get in the S4 is awesome.   I think I'd pick the Quattro between those two, much nicer inside plus it's their thing. I'd pick a Bimmer over a FWD Audi any day, though.   -juice
#319 of 828 Went for the Ultimate AWD Coupe by redsoxgirl May 16, 2006 (12:38 pm)
After considering and reconsidering just about every alternative, I decided to stay within the Porsche family and ordered a 2007 911 C4S Coupe for late September delivery. I'll accept that I'm not going to be racing SUV's through heavy snow to Killington. On the other hand, I met a Harvard professor who has a 2001 911 C4 that has yet to be "snowbound" commuting into and out of Boston. His car has 56,000 miles and still looks brand new. I've already checked with Tire Rack for winter tire/rim suggestions.   Thanks for those who offered suggestions and opinions. I honestly didn't expect this to be the result, but after test driving the new 911, it's hard not to fall for it.   Drive safely everyone.
#320 of 828 press request by kirstie_h HOST May 16, 2006 (3:49 pm)
A reporter is interested in talking with consumers who have purchased All-Wheel-Drive vehicles, or would consider doing so next time they are in the market. Please respond to jfallonedmunds.com with your daytime contact information and a few words about your level of interest in AWD.
#321 of 828 Re: Sport vs. AWD [redsoxgirl] by esf May 20, 2006 (10:37 am)
Replying to: redsoxgirl (May 11, 2006 1:53 pm) If you're looking for an all-season sports car, for around $60K, my car may be for you.   Sure, it's not as fun as the M3 in the twisties- and you're quite a critic, as I can see. But, my convertible is far superior to the M3 in almost every respect- luxury, style (in my Sprint Blue color), off-the-line performance, easy to live with, and it's still a blast in the S-curves.   I think you should take a look at the Audi S4 Cabriolet. I just love the car, and do you know who Jeremy Clarkson is? The S4 is his 2nd favorite convertible (behind the new Jaguar XK, because-- well... he's British!).   Just a thought. Also, by the way, I did test drive the M3 Convertible before I bought the S4. With the options that my $63K S4 has, an M3 Convertible would've exceeded $70,000, a barrier that I didn't want to cross. The S4 also has a luxury-car worthy interior, a much cooler color, and the smooth grumble of a 340hp V8 under the hood.   '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX 330 Replies to this message: redsoxgirl (May 20, 2006 11:29 am)

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