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What is this discussion about? BMW 3 Series, Audi A4, Volvo S60 R, Subaru Legacy, Audi S4, Mazda MAZDASPEED MAZDA6, Sedan


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Subaru Legacy spec.B by ateixeira
May 05, 2006 (6:56 am)
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That's what I would suggest. The 07 model gets some key upgrades: a 6 speed manual and a Torsen LSD, plus little things like memory seats, Sirius radio, and black/blue heated leather seats. GPS NAV is standard, and it should be right in your price range.
 
R&T did a comparo and the Audi A4 took first, but the Subie was only one point behind, and won when price was factored in. That was before all the upgrades mentioned above.
 
That plus the spec.B blew away the others in the performance categories, easily getting the best acceleration times, autocross lap times, basically across the board it beat the A4 Quattro, 325xi, G35x, IS250 AWD, MS6, and S40 T5. Only 2 cars were within a second of the Legacy in 0-60, and only 1 car was withing a second of its lap time on the autocross course.
 
It basically kicked asphalt.
 
-juice
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Re: Subaru Legacy spec.B [ateixeira] by bullardohio
May 05, 2006 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 05, 2006 6:56 am)

Thanks for the info. Do you have a hot link (or month, year) for that article?
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March 06 by ateixeira
May 05, 2006 (9:16 am)
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Usually your library will have back issues, and you can copy the pages. If there is a car show coming to your area soon, the Subaru booth is handing them out. In fact I bet your dealer will have them.
 
The article is very compelling.
 
-juice
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Re: March 06 [ateixeira] by v_lad
May 08, 2006 (2:43 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 05, 2006 9:16 am)

Do you know whether thay plan to rework suspension? I don't like that body roll and braking distance.
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Re: I thank you, Bons... [esf] by kurtamaxxxguy
May 08, 2006 (6:04 pm)
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Replying to: esf (Apr 20, 2006 5:55 pm)

The V6 in the Audi A3 3.2 does _not_ have FSI (Audi's A3 product manager told me so). Not this year, anyway. The V6 Audi uses for the 3.2 came from the VW R32.
 
The V6 in the new VW Passat does have FSI.
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Re: March 06 [v_lad] by ateixeira
May 09, 2006 (6:35 am)
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Replying to: v_lad (May 08, 2006 2:43 pm)

The rear differential will get a Torsen limited-slip unit, but I don't think they will re-tune the suspension. The shocks are Bilsteins, those are fine IMO, so you could just get stiffer springs.
 
There is a great aftermarket for Subarus, especially since the WRX came out.
 
Remember, though - the spec.B spanked Audi, BMW, Infiniti, Volvo, and Lexus with the stock suspension, which is pretty compliant.
 
-juice
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I think by dhamilton
May 09, 2006 (7:37 am)
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it was the acceleration, not the handling that won the praise in the review. It just got kind of slammed against the Mazdaspeed 6.
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Re: I think [dhamilton] by ateixeira
May 09, 2006 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: dhamilton (May 09, 2006 7:37 am)

You must be thinking of a different review, maybe Motor Trend?
 
Lap times were 54.9 for the Subaru (quickest), 56.7 for the MazdaSpeed (2nd slowest). Mazda had more lateral Gs, but Subaru won the slalom easily.
 
-juice
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Edmunds comparison by dhamilton
May 09, 2006 (11:23 am)
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I was refering to the Edmunds comparison where the Subie out accelerated the Mazda but was slower thrue the slalom, and had lower skid pad numbers. The Mazda also outbraked the Subaru.
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Re: Edmunds comparison [dhamilton] by ateixeira
May 09, 2006 (11:38 am)
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Replying to: dhamilton (May 09, 2006 11:23 am)

Ah, Edmunds. Still, it was close:
 
among three editors, the Subaru won with one, the Mazda won with another and the third called it a draw
 
-juice

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