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What is this discussion about? BMW 3 Series, Audi A4, Volvo S60 R, Subaru Legacy, Audi S4, Mazda MAZDASPEED MAZDA6, Sedan

#231 of 828 Re: c'mon [dhanley] by pat HOST Feb 13, 2006 (11:15 am)
Replying to: dhanley (Feb 13, 2006 9:51 am) Welllll ... it really isn't clear whether the poster is joking or not, especially since these are the only posts he/she has made. But it is a joke to put the Aveo in this category, that's for sure!
#232 of 828 Aveo's good points by ateixeira Feb 13, 2006 (12:30 pm)
* it's cheap * if it's stolen, it's cheap to replace * noone wants to steal it anyway, so it won't get stolen * noone will ask you to borrow money * you will look "ghetto fab" if you get fake chrome spinners
#233 of 828 fair enough by dhanley Feb 13, 2006 (12:43 pm)
And i can understand "cheap is good." I'm glad the GF decided the scion TC is adorable, and she doesn't want a monster ford truck anymore(whew!).   I sat in the s4 at the autoshow, and was a bit taken aback that it's 57K, but it is of course a nice car. The rs4 was there as well.   Sat in the s60R. If carsdirect is to be beleived and it can be gotten for 33-35K, it's a great deal, feature-wise, though i didn't like the cabin that much. Replies to this message: esf (Feb 13, 2006 3:17 pm)
#234 of 828 Re: c'mon [dhanley] by esf Feb 13, 2006 (3:15 pm)
Replying to: dhanley (Feb 13, 2006 9:51 am) I know it's a joke! JPR18 and I know each other very well and we were making cracks at each other on purpose. (The Aveo thing was masterful- I wonder if it made a stir in anyone?)
#235 of 828 Re: fair enough [dhanley] by esf Feb 13, 2006 (3:17 pm)
Replying to: dhanley (Feb 13, 2006 12:43 pm) If you think the S4 Cabriolet is expensive (the Sedan starts at $47K, it's the convertible with the Auto that starts at $56K), look at the Benz CLK55 AMG. For anyone who says it's not, it is a direct competitor to the $58K M3 convertible and the $56K S4 Cabriolet, and it starts at... drum roll...   $83,000. How Mercedes.
#236 of 828 Re: Thank you [ateixeira] by potemkin Feb 13, 2006 (7:22 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 10, 2006 1:04 pm) "Tell that to the test measuring equipment,..."   Okay.   Dear measuring equipment,   The sloptronic is a lame excuse for a transmission no matter how many silly modes BMW includes.   "...which in fact observed the Lexus kicking some BMW tail big-time."   Well, as long as that BMW has a sloptronic, I'm not surprised. Replies to this message: esf (Feb 15, 2006 7:38 pm) potemkin (Feb 19, 2006 12:25 pm) esf (Feb 19, 2006 2:57 pm) and 8 more...
#237 of 828 AW Poll by ateixeira Feb 14, 2006 (12:39 pm)
Did the equipment hear you?   Found this interesting - Autoweek did a poll about that review, and readers chose the Lexus IS over the 3 series, by a pretty wide margin (57% IS, 35.3% BMW, 7.7% tossup).   Autoweek subscribers are definitely the demographic they target (readers own an average of 5+ cars).   -juice
#238 of 828 Re: Thank you [potemkin] by esf Feb 15, 2006 (7:38 pm)
Replying to: potemkin (Feb 13, 2006 7:22 pm) Well, then you would be surprised to know that an IS350 with a "sloptronic" is significantly quicker than a 330i with a manual.   I'm not a die-hard Lexus fan, but that's the truth.     Replies to this message: potemkin (Feb 19, 2006 12:25 pm) esf (Feb 19, 2006 2:57 pm) potemkin (Feb 20, 2006 4:25 pm) and 7 more...
#239 of 828 Re: 2007 A4's [jburleig] by u2jrmw Feb 16, 2006 (11:01 am)
Replying to: jburleig (Feb 08, 2006 11:39 am) The first thing Audi are doing for 07 is dropping the included maintenance. Replies to this message: markcincinnati (Feb 16, 2006 1:18 pm)
#240 of 828 Re: 2007 A4's [u2jrmw] by markcincinnati Feb 16, 2006 (1:18 pm)
Replying to: u2jrmw (Feb 16, 2006 11:01 am) For the $550 premium, Audi, IMHO, should've buried it in the price of the car and not let us get in such a huff here.   I think this is a blunder. And, there is no reason for it, the dollars aren't all that much in the overall scheme.   Why not just keep it like it is and add a bit more to the MSRP. As long as Audis have the AA, there is at least a chance they will have even better and improving residuals which of course will keep them competitive.   I am an Audi fan -- but I swear, they keep frittering away the perks -- two years too early in their turnaround.

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