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I rarely by dhamilton
Feb 10, 2006 (11:51 am)
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agree with Juice but you definatly implied that the Lexus had the worm. In your last post you switched from worm, to handicaped. Now both of you got me screwed up cause here I am defending Lexus.
 I see your point about not handicaping the bimmer because Lexus can't make the proper tranny. The problem is, that tranny is seemingly a figment of the average consumers imagination.
 The issue in my mind however is, why would Edmunds refuse to do a comparo against an auto Audi 3.2, but will gladly do it with Lexus?
PS Honda's manual is better than them all.
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Thank you by ateixeira
Feb 10, 2006 (1:04 pm)
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I thought I was crazy there for a second.
 
the sloptronic is a handicap
 
Tell that to the test measuring equipment, which in fact observed the Lexus kicking some BMW tail big-time.
 
-juice
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Re: I rarely [dhamilton] by esf
Feb 10, 2006 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: dhamilton (Feb 10, 2006 11:51 am)

Try the Audi S4's automatic- or better yet, the new Jag XK one.
 
Best on the market.
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Re: I rarely [esf] by jpr18
Feb 11, 2006 (1:38 pm)
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Replying to: esf (Feb 10, 2006 3:17 pm)

The Jaguar XK has a MUCH better tranny than the S4. Ugh! I'd take an Aveo over the S4 anyday. The new Aveo looks SOOO cool, No? I wish they offer a 4.3 V8 and AWD soon. If they did it would blow away a ML63 AMG!! I would keep the standard cloth seats, though. I think they look cool.
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Re: I rarely [jpr18] by esf
Feb 11, 2006 (1:43 pm)
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Replying to: jpr18 (Feb 11, 2006 1:38 pm)

"The Jaguar XK has a MUCH better tranny than the S4. Ugh! I'd take an Aveo over the S4 anyday."
 
Excuse me?
 
In Motor Trend November 2004, there was an article with the S4 sedan. The author stated that, "The S4 has one of the most smooth transmissions ever tested." Is this proof that the S4 has a darn good transmission? I believe it's a ZF 6-Speed.
 
And, on the Aveo quote, I hope you were joking. That says that you have serious problems.
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Re: I rarely [esf] by jpr18
Feb 11, 2006 (2:00 pm)
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Replying to: esf (Feb 11, 2006 1:43 pm)

How dare You! The new Aveo is perfectly fine! Does the S4 cabriolet have an available power sliding sunroof? NO! Does it have an iPod audio jack? NO! Does the S4 have clear lens tailights? NO! does it have the gold bowtie on the grille? NO! Does it have a 103 hp 4 cylinder engine that gets 35 mpg? I don't think so. Clearly, the Aveo is a much better vehicle.
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Re: I rarely [jpr18] by esf
Feb 11, 2006 (2:27 pm)
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Replying to: jpr18 (Feb 11, 2006 2:00 pm)

"Does the S4 cabriolet have an available power sliding sunroof? NO! Does it have an iPod audio jack? NO! Does the S4 have clear lens taillights? NO! does it have the gold bowtie on the grille? NO! Does it have a 103 hp 4 cylinder engine that gets 35 mpg? I don't think so. Clearly, the Aveo is a much better vehicle."
 
So much to fix, so much...
 
The reason the S4 Cabriolet does not have a power sliding sunroof is because it is a CONVERTIBLE. The only convertibles whose tops emulate sunroofs are the Mini Cooper Convertible and the new Volkswagen Eos, which actually has one in its hard top.
 
Actually, the S4 Cabriolet does have iPod capability if you have the optional NAV system in it. There is a button which flips the screen down, revealing space for an iPod connector and a DVD player.
 
The S4 does not have clear lens taillights because they do not look the least elegant. The S4 is an elegant automobile, and, (besides the Lexus RX- that looks good) clear lenses make it look juvenile.
 
Next, the S4 Cabriolet does not have the gold bowtie because it has the four rings. Audi's logo is much more prestigious and more associated with quality than any Chevy sign, no matter what car it is attached to.
 
The S4 doesn't have a 103 hp 4-cylinder engine because that's just pathetic. The S4's engine is more than twice that size and has more than three times more horsepower! Also, 35 mpg is not impressive for that size engine. The new Toyota Yaris gets 45 mpg, and it has only 4 less horsepower.
 
I have stated my case.
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Re: I rarely [esf] by jpr18
Feb 11, 2006 (2:46 pm)
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Replying to: esf (Feb 11, 2006 2:27 pm)

I disagree
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Re: I rarely [jpr18] by esf
Feb 12, 2006 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: jpr18 (Feb 11, 2006 2:46 pm)

I seriously hope you're joking, and have been the whole time!
 
There are many Audi enthusiasts on this forum, and they wouldn't be pleased with you to hear that you like the Aveo better than the S4.
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c'mon by dhanley
Feb 13, 2006 (9:51 am)
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Can't ya take a joke?

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