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That 44K... by byronwalter
Jan 13, 2005 (2:03 pm)
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...for an S4 sounds like an excellent deal. My A4 goes in for scheduled servicing in about 6 weeks. If there are any 44k S4's sitting around the lot, I might just see if I could do a deal. The current B6 S4 is one of the nicest rides on the road.
 
As far as the new Subie's go, the new GT is very nice indeed and I bet that the '06 sees a jump in hp, which will put the squeeze (however slightly) on BMW & Audi.
 
My Audi has been excellent ('02 Avant) but I bet that, say, six or seven years down the road that Subie will be costing less to maintain.
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BMW xi vs. Quattro by gordonwd
Jan 14, 2005 (5:56 am)
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My previous car was an A4 1.8T Quattro. I currently drive a 325i mainly because I wanted a BMW and thought that the AWD system in the 325xi had more drawbacks for me than advantages over RWD. This might change in the next-gen AWD that BMW offers on the new 3-series. Actually, if BMW offered the 325i with Audi's Quattro system then I might have gone that route, but for now the E46 3-series is much more suited to its traditional RWD setup.
 
By the way, I live in SE Michigan where we do get snow in the winter, but generally not the blowouts that you'd get out in the Great Plains states or the mountains, where AWD is much more of a real necessity. So far I'm doing fine with the RWD on the standard all-season tires. The DSC/DTC helps a lot in this regard, and if I start having any problems a set of full snow tires would probably take care of it.
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Re: The Audi Dilemma [knr5] by brianc6796
Jan 22, 2005 (3:40 pm)
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Replying to: knr5 (Dec 13, 2004 1:40 am)

The other issue with the new Audi is that the new 6 cylinder is at first only coming out with an automatic transmission. The manual will only be available on the 4 cyclinder and the S4. What a bummer.
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by ateixeira
Jan 24, 2005 (7:42 am)
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The 2.0T is supposedly much improved. I'd like to sample one soon.
 
-juice
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Subaru Value by erikn206
Jan 28, 2005 (12:41 am)
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I have an '03 Outback with 50k miles on it. My old car was a '95 jetta. I considered an A4, and while I know the A4 may be more refined and cool, I really appreciate the value of my Subie. It was much much cheaper to buy and servicing the car has been much cheaper than my VW was--I'm sure it would be even worse for an Audi. It's the same dealer, so I don't know why they'd rip off their VW customers over their Subaru buyers. Also I get 25mpg even though I drive, umm, fast.
Either way you decide to go, AWD is the greatest thing ever... especially with the massive quantities of wet snow I have to drive through in the mountains here outside Seattle.
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Re: Subaru Value [erikn206] by jplyman
Jan 29, 2005 (6:50 am)
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Replying to: erikn206 (Jan 28, 2005 12:41 am)

I think a major misconception is that Audi's A4 are high priced - they really are a great bang for the buck.... while you maybe able to get a subie for maybe a couple dollars less. On the maintenance side all Audis come with 4 years free maintenance - can't beat that.
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by ateixeira
Jan 31, 2005 (7:51 am)
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Base prices are good, but options are kinda pricey, that's what gets them up there in price.
 
A4 starts at just $26,520, but add Quattro and a few options and you're well into the $30s.
 
Watch the options sheet and I think you can get a pretty good value.
 
-juice
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Re: [ateixeira] by nowhere2005
Jan 31, 2005 (3:15 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 31, 2005 7:51 am)

I'm ready to close a deal on an '05 A4 1.8T Quattro Special Edition (Leather/Sunroof/Power */17" Wheels/Sunroof) with cold weather Pkg for just under 29,800, which includes destination.
 
If this same car was purchased earlier in the model year, the MSRP would have been approaching 34k.
 
Current ride is an '01 A4 1.8T Quattro. I shopped the Legacy GT - thought it was a fine car, but couldn't get past the fuel economy.
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by ateixeira
Feb 01, 2005 (8:30 am)
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That's almost 40% more displacement, no way around using more fuel.
 
-juice
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Re: [ateixeira] by nowhere2005
Feb 01, 2005 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 01, 2005 8:30 am)

juice,
 
I'm well aware of the difference in displacement, power, etc between the GT & the A4. Just explaining one of the factors that lead to my decision and the fact that the SE's represent a good value (My '05 and '01 purchase prices are within $500). I also own an '03 Baja and am aware of the performance of the N/A 2.5l engine, which is not enough for me personally. When I finally sat down and weighed all costs, along with the intangiables - the A4 was the answer for me (For the 3rd time '98/'01/'05).
 
Now if I was in a mode where I was purchasing simply based on performance/price ratio, I would likely purchase a GT.
 
nw2k5

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