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Future LS600h reprise by idele
Aug 10, 2005 (1:14 pm)
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The fact remains that the LF-S is an awd hybrid. Extrapolating from the IS and GS programs to the LS program is speculation. Here's another speculation: Lexus participates in F1 racing: F1 rules do not exclude hybrids or can be changed; sucess in F1 establishes hybrids as performance vehicles .......etc. etc. etc. Also, to my knowledge F1 vehicles are awd.
I live in a very mild climate. I first got awd with the initial RX300. I discovered that it gives you better control and, even with an extreme paucity of snow, awd prevents aquaplaning and we get plenty of rain. For my next two cars I bought awd Audis, an A6 4.2 and Allroad 2.7T. The latter was actually a better vehicle. From my experience Audi doesn't match Lexus quality. Hybrids make great sense to me so I've acquired an RX400h, the only available performance hybrid and fortunately awd, too It is a very superior vehicle well worth the premium price. What I want is an awd hybrid sedan and the LF-S is it.
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Re: Future LS600h reprise [idele] by lexusguy
Aug 11, 2005 (5:07 pm)
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Replying to: idele (Aug 10, 2005 1:14 pm)

Makes sense to me. I think there's a definite possibility that Acura may offer the RL as a hybrid, so that could be a possible option.
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AWD by nexuslexus
Aug 11, 2005 (5:58 pm)
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I would agree with one of the earlier comments that the reason I don't have an LS (I actually have an ES instead) is because AWD is not available on the LS. While I would prefer AWD to FWD on the ES and the Avalon (I have had both), it is not available on the LS, and RWD isn't acceptable in the hills of Michigan.
 
I am waiting for the 2007 Lexus to come out with AWD, but if it doesn't then I will be forced to turn away from Lexus and to Infiniti (the M35x is better than the GS300 AWD) or even to Mercedes if their new S-Class has *MUCH* better reliability. I would hate to have to do that, so Kevin if you could let us know, and if you could put that on the wish list, that would be great (in fact, if there was one improvement to be made to the LS it would be AWD).
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AWD by sv7887
Aug 11, 2005 (6:38 pm)
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Hi NexusLexus,
  I've driven my 92 LS for years in the snow here in New England. I'd venture to say the hills around here are quite nasty too...Have you tried a set of Bridgestone Blizzak tires? I have them on my 1992 and Michelin Artic Alpins on my '05 LS.
 
You wouldn't believe how well they perform. I have quite a steep driveway and it makes it up in about 4" inches of snow. I've come to think that most of this AWD is a fad made up by some genius Marketing team. Has anyone noticed that every Taxi and Police car is a RWD car? I used to own a Toyota Tercel as a winter beater car but then someone recommended the Blizzaks to me.
 
Just a thought,
SV
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Re: AWD [sv7887] by nexuslexus
Aug 13, 2005 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: sv7887 (Aug 11, 2005 6:38 pm)

I had thought of that before, but the problem is that it is not uncommon for there to be 6-12 inches of snow, and even my FWD car has trouble in that (not my AWD ones though).
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Re: AWD [sv7887] by lexusguy
Aug 14, 2005 (3:15 pm)
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Replying to: sv7887 (Aug 11, 2005 6:38 pm)

I've used both the Blizzaks and Alpins on my LS. They do ok, but only if you have them on all four wheels. When I say "ok" I mean passable, but only in what I would consider "light" snow days in southern PA. Anything remotely heavy, I take my wife's AWD RX. What you get with AWD is the ability to really use A\S tires all year round. An AWD vehicle with snow tires mounted will blow anything else away.
 
I dont consider AWD on the LS to be a critical feature, because I have the RX300 to fall back on. However, if Lexus offered it, I would definitely buy.
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Re: AWD [lexusguy] by nexuslexus
Aug 14, 2005 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 14, 2005 3:15 pm)

I consider AWD critical on my next car. This past year, I faced an emergency situation where my vehicle, a FWD car, could not get out onto the main road because of the snow. I ended up having to not go to work, as my wife needed to use her AWD vehicle.
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awd by antlers1
Aug 14, 2005 (8:23 pm)
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awd is essential here in north central region.
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Re: AWD [nexuslexus] by lexusguy
Aug 15, 2005 (3:27 pm)
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Replying to: nexuslexus (Aug 14, 2005 6:45 pm)

This is why I think the RWD GS450h is such a mistake. It would give them the opportunity to offer a powerful AWD car for those that want something comparable to a V8. As of right now, if 245hp isnt good enough for you, Lexus has nothing to offer, but they will have two RWD GS cars with near identical power and acceleration. Whats the point of that?
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Re: AWD [lexusguy] by billsoter
Aug 16, 2005 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 15, 2005 3:27 pm)

I'm looking forward to the new LS. I couldn't imagine buying anything else. However, with my low mileage 2003 LS I would need a compelling reason to trade. AWD would probably be the only feature that would be sufficiently compelling.

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