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#506 of 3321 Re: New 4.6L engine thoughts.... [lexusguy] by oac Aug 07, 2005 (9:33 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 07, 2005 12:33 pm) Agree. Speculation has the 4.6L at ~350 HP and about same in torque. Kevin already speculated a 7-speed tranny, but who knows... may be that is scheduled for the 600H and not the base LS460. Even with a carry-over 6-speed to the '07 release, and with increased weight, the car should do the low-to-mid-5s 0-60. That is plenty speedy for all but the most power hungry buyers. And that's what the LS600H will satisfy - speed and economy (mpg). Replies to this message: lexusguy (Aug 10, 2005 5:03 am)
#507 of 3321 Re: New 4.6L engine thoughts.... [oac] by lexusguy Aug 10, 2005 (5:03 am)
Replying to: oac (Aug 07, 2005 9:33 pm) Based on reaction to the RX400h, I think the LS600 should do well. The one area where I think Lexus made a mistake was deciding to make the GS450 RWD. If they instead made it AWD (with electric motors driving the fronts instead of the rears as in the RX400), there would not be such an overlap with the GS460, and it would also give them a car to compete with the A6 4.2 and E500 4matic, something nobody else has.
#508 of 3321 AWD? by mikeroch Aug 10, 2005 (8:20 am)
Hi all,   Sorry if this has been addressed before, but is there any indication (or perhaps "confirmed" information) as to whether the LS460 will be all wheel drive?   Thanks Replies to this message: syswei (Aug 10, 2005 8:28 am)
#509 of 3321 Re: AWD? [mikeroch] by syswei Aug 10, 2005 (8:28 am)
Replying to: mikeroch (Aug 10, 2005 8:20 am) About a year ago I read something from Lexus suggesting that its hybrid vehicles would all be AWD. Since the GS450h will be RWD, I guess they changed their minds.   Personally I think they should put AWD on at least some versions of the 2007 LS.   Kevin if you read this, add AWD to the wishlist. Speaking for myself, the reason I don't own an LS now is the lack of AWD. If the 2007 LS lacks AWD I won't be a customer, and maybe would turn to Infiniti (depending on what the next Q is like and if it has AWD) or, heaven forbid, a German make.
#511 of 3321 Future LS600h by idele Aug 10, 2005 (9:03 am)
The concept LF-S is an AWD hybrid with rather sleek styling. I hope that it's the prototype of the prospective LS600h. Replies to this message: oac (Aug 10, 2005 10:30 am) syswei (Aug 10, 2005 10:38 am)
#512 of 3321 Re: Future LS600h [idele] by oac Aug 10, 2005 (10:30 am)
Replying to: idele (Aug 10, 2005 9:03 am) If one follows the logic of the new '06 releases (IS and GS), it is clear that Lexus provides AWD on the lower trim models (GS300 and IS250). One can then speculate that the LS460 will have an AWD option since it will be the lowest trim of the LS model - LS460, LS600H, and potentially a higher-end $100K+ LS. I'd be hard pressed to expect the 600H as an AWD, being that the GS450H is also a RWD. Replies to this message: syswei (Aug 10, 2005 10:38 am)
#513 of 3321 Re: Future LS600h [oac] by syswei Aug 10, 2005 (10:38 am)
Replying to: oac (Aug 10, 2005 10:30 am) That makes sense. I think what Lexus does is put options that it expects to have a less than 50% take rate on the higher volume (= lower end) variants...so maybe I'll end up in a LS460awd.   On the other hand, now that they've had more time to see how the comptetition is spreading AWD around, maybe they'll start to make AWD a more widespread option themselves. One can hope anyway.
#514 of 3321 Future LS600h reprise by idele Aug 10, 2005 (1:14 pm)
The fact remains that the LF-S is an awd hybrid. Extrapolating from the IS and GS programs to the LS program is speculation. Here's another speculation: Lexus participates in F1 racing: F1 rules do not exclude hybrids or can be changed; sucess in F1 establishes hybrids as performance vehicles .......etc. etc. etc. Also, to my knowledge F1 vehicles are awd. I live in a very mild climate. I first got awd with the initial RX300. I discovered that it gives you better control and, even with an extreme paucity of snow, awd prevents aquaplaning and we get plenty of rain. For my next two cars I bought awd Audis, an A6 4.2 and Allroad 2.7T. The latter was actually a better vehicle. From my experience Audi doesn't match Lexus quality. Hybrids make great sense to me so I've acquired an RX400h, the only available performance hybrid and fortunately awd, too It is a very superior vehicle well worth the premium price. What I want is an awd hybrid sedan and the LF-S is it. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Aug 11, 2005 5:07 pm)
#515 of 3321 Re: Future LS600h reprise [idele] by lexusguy Aug 11, 2005 (5:07 pm)
Replying to: idele (Aug 10, 2005 1:14 pm) Makes sense to me. I think there's a definite possibility that Acura may offer the RL as a hybrid, so that could be a possible option.

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