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#495 of 3321 Re: LS Minority [oac] by lexusguy Jul 26, 2005 (3:14 pm)
Replying to: oac (Jul 25, 2005 7:07 pm) There's also a minimum amount of power and acceleration that buyers in this market are willing to accept in the full size lux class. For example, everyone is questioning MB for bringing back a V6 to the S class. Jaguar says they are working on a diesel XJ... that will need 8 seconds+ to hit 60mph. I just dont see anybody in America buying that. Not necessarily because its diesel, but because thats just too slow.
#496 of 3321 2007 LS prices by idele Jul 27, 2005 (4:56 pm)
From Nikkei news: "Toyota Motor Corp. (7203) plans to roll out next summer the top-end model of its Lexus brand, the LS, with a price tag of more than 10 million yen, The Nihon Keizai Shimbun learned Wednesday. " At the current exchange rate the top end model in dollars is $89285. Replies to this message: ljflx (Jul 27, 2005 7:04 pm) idele (Jul 28, 2005 3:57 am)
#497 of 3321 Re: 2007 LS prices [idele] by ljflx Jul 27, 2005 (7:04 pm)
Replying to: idele (Jul 27, 2005 4:56 pm) They use 105 yen to the dollar for the US as their pricing mechanism. There budgets etc are based on that - for this year at least - as they've said that in past public financial disclosures. Replies to this message: idele (Jul 28, 2005 3:57 am)
#498 of 3321 Re: 2007 LS prices [ljflx] by idele Jul 28, 2005 (3:57 am)
Replying to: ljflx (Jul 27, 2005 7:04 pm) I used 112 yen to the dollar; the current exchange rate on Bloomberg is 112.4. The price quoted of 10 million yen might include the Japanese 5% sales tax. In any case, the top end will challenge MB, BMW and Audi and, in my opinion, will be superior. I'm enormously pleased with my Lexus hybrid and plan to purchase only hybrids. I vastly prefer a sedan and expect to get an LS hybrid when my 2 year single pay lease is up.
#499 of 3321 HP ratings by mikegiller Aug 01, 2005 (7:13 pm)
Does anyone have some new information? This LS forum is dying   SAE horsepower for the 2006 LS 430 is 278 HP which is the same as 290 HP. From this we can get that the old system (DIN ?) has a 4.32% increase over SAE. Since the IS 350 is rated with SAE HP, using the 4.32% advantage the old system has over the new SAE, we get:   IS 350: 319 HP (USA) - SAE: 306            323 HP (CAN) - SAE: 310 IS 250: 213 HP (USA) - SAE: 204            210 HP (CAN) - SAE: 201   So, in the States, it turns out that the HP didn't go down at all on the IS 250... it remains the same, relatively. The only difference is the torque; that went down.   Lexus is getting modest with their numbers. Replies to this message: oac (Aug 02, 2005 3:49 pm) mikegiller (Aug 02, 2005 7:33 pm) lexusguy (Aug 02, 2005 4:27 pm)
#500 of 3321 Re: HP ratings [mikegiller] by oac Aug 02, 2005 (3:49 pm)
Replying to: mikegiller (Aug 01, 2005 7:13 pm) Mike:   Do you think Lexus applied the SAE to the 3L 245HP output in the 2006 GS300 ? I'd think not, so why apply it to the new IS twins ? For marketing sake, especially in HP-hungry NA market, I would have liked to see the IS350 come in at 320HP and the IS250 at 215HP. That would really give Lexus a HUGE advantage to its competition, just on the face of it.   BTW, the LS460 is projected to have a 350HP, hopefully that is SAE-based rating. Replies to this message: mikegiller (Aug 02, 2005 7:33 pm)
#501 of 3321 Re: HP ratings [mikegiller] by lexusguy Aug 02, 2005 (4:27 pm)
Replying to: mikegiller (Aug 01, 2005 7:13 pm) Lexus has always been relatively modest with its numbers. The LS is faster than its 290hp (now 278) would suggest.
#502 of 3321 Because... by mikegiller Aug 02, 2005 (7:33 pm)
Replying to: oac (Aug 02, 2005 3:49 pm) ... ...Lexus already stated that the new IS is rated in SAE output.
#503 of 3321 opportunity to ask questions of Lexus chief engineer by syswei Aug 06, 2005 (8:30 am)
http://asklexus.caranddriver.com/
#504 of 3321 New 4.6L engine thoughts.... by pearl Aug 07, 2005 (12:13 pm)
as usual, Lexus has made little known about the upcoming 4.6L V8; however, we should expect that, beyond expanding displacement from 4.3 to 4.6L, they will at least add the technologies found on the new 3.5L V6: continuously variable valve timing on both the intake and exhaust cams (as opposed to only the intake cam on the 4.3), some sort of variable intake air management to permit maximum air flow at high rpm and a more focused flow at lower rpms (Mercedes uses a "tumble flap" design on their 3.5L V6), possibly some form of direct fuel injection (which could also permit a higher compression ratio). Coupled with the increased displacement, such an engine should easily produce 350hp or more, plus lower emissions and probably increased fuel economy. If Lexus further enhances their automatic transmission, perhaps by adding a seventh gear, then even with increased overall vehicle weight, we could be looking at a faster, more economical car, with lower emissions. I hope we hear something on this engine fairly soon. It has mostly gotten lost in the shuffle with the anticipation of the LS600h, but in my opinion, the 460 may be the 'best of the best". Replies to this message: lexusguy (Aug 07, 2005 12:33 pm) oac (Aug 07, 2005 9:33 pm) lexusguy (Aug 10, 2005 5:03 am)

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