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#476 of 3321 Re: 8 speed is slated for the V12 [ljflx] by idele Jul 17, 2005 (3:23 am)
Replying to: ljflx (Jul 16, 2005 9:16 am) The Toyota top limousine is the Century with a V12 engine, a distinct traditional design and a rather staid car. I would guess that just as the Celsior (equivalent to LS) disappears from the Toyota stable, to become the new LS in the Lexus stable, the top of the line Century will also disappear from the Toyota stable, to become the Lexus LSS. Given my experience with my 12 day old RX400H I will purchase only hybrid cars in the future. I am hoping that the LS600H is, and I believe it will be, the production version of the LF-S shown Los Angeles earlier this year. Replies to this message: ljflx (Jul 17, 2005 10:30 am) mikegiller (Jul 17, 2005 11:12 am) idele (Jul 17, 2005 5:52 pm)
#477 of 3321 Re: 8 speed is slated for the V12 [ljflx] by syswei Jul 17, 2005 (7:25 am)
Replying to: ljflx (Jul 16, 2005 9:16 am) Thanks for that info, I don't get MT. This is the first indication I think we've had that the 2007 cars might not have a LWB option.   My bet is that the 2007 comes in the fall not spring of 06.
#478 of 3321 syswei by lexusguy Jul 17, 2005 (9:00 am)
Yeah thats what Im thinking too. September or October. Replies to this message: ljflx (Jul 17, 2005 11:31 am)
#479 of 3321 Re: 8 speed is slated for the V12 [idele] by ljflx Jul 17, 2005 (10:30 am)
Replying to: idele (Jul 17, 2005 3:23 am) It's very clear in the brief that the LSS is a stretched version of the next gen LS and not the Century, which is a totally different car. The Century is hardly a car that Lexus would come out with in the middle of an image change. If the Century ever makes it here, which is a close to zero chance, it won't wear a Lexus badge. Stories of a stretched LS have been carried for a long time now and Lexus almost put one out in 2001.
#480 of 3321 Re: 8 speed is slated for the V12 [idele] by mikegiller Jul 17, 2005 (11:12 am)
Replying to: idele (Jul 17, 2005 3:23 am) The Century will not disappear from the Toyota stable since Kevin is currently working on the new V12, and the design for that car. It will be newly designed for 2007/8 still as the Toyota Century. What indication do you have that the Century Limousine will become the performance super LS? Replies to this message: idele (Jul 17, 2005 5:52 pm)
#481 of 3321 Re: syswei [lexusguy] by ljflx Jul 17, 2005 (11:31 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 17, 2005 9:00 am) I was thinking that too and was surprised to see C&D note a spring 2006 debut. But business wise it may be smart to hit the S-class head-on. That is not a potent looking new S-class either. I'd say it's quite vulnerable. I guess we'll get the real details at the Tokyo auto show.
#482 of 3321 ljflx by lexusguy Jul 17, 2005 (12:42 pm)
"That is not a potent looking new S-class either"   No, it isnt. Its a baby Maybach with a cut-and-paste BMW 7 interior. If I were BMW, I'd either be very flattered, or angry.
#483 of 3321 It isn't by chris65amg Jul 17, 2005 (1:21 pm)
The S600 and higher trim levels are a sitting duck, as is the 760iL. The XJ extended length one (is it Vanden Plas?) may also suffer. Come to think of it, I think they all would if a super LS stretched came out.
#484 of 3321 Re: 8 speed is slated for the V12 [mikegiller] by idele Jul 17, 2005 (5:52 pm)
Replying to: mikegiller (Jul 17, 2005 11:12 am) Quote: "What indication do you have that the Century Limousine will become the performance super LS?" Rational thought. I stated it was a guess. Given that Lexus will have 180 dealers in Japan and it is established as Toyota's premium brand , I would think it doubtful to have the top of the line car labeled a Toyota. But as I said I'm only guessing. I bought TM stock (ADR's consisting of 2 Japanese shares) about a month ago when I ordered my RX400h and as of today it's up 5.13 per cent. That beats waiting for bigger discounts on the RX400h.
#485 of 3321 Re: 8-speed [nvbanker] by jack27 Jul 19, 2005 (1:09 pm)
Replying to: nvbanker (Jul 16, 2005 1:27 pm) Aisin/Equos have had over 60 engineers working on Torotrak toroidal IVT for at least 18 months and a Toyota Celsior has been at Torotrak's UK facilities recently - it was apparently fitted with IVT and on test. Note: the Toyota Celsior is not distributed in the UK.   It is a strong possibility that the LS430 will appear with a toroidal IVT before long and the 2007 model is an attractive proposition for Torotrak followers.   Should the Toroidal IVT get into volume production it is expected to be cost competitive and smaller than equivalent 6sp AT with significantly (12%+) better fuel economy, smoother and with better performance.

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