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Lexus LS 460/LS 460L Styling Impressions

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Re: Telegram... Camp Lexus... di di dit dit [mariner7] by maxhonda99
Jul 13, 2005 (5:12 pm)
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Replying to: mariner7 (Jul 13, 2005 4:12 am)

"In 2030, the 3 biggest will be China/India/US, in that order. Something tells me Chinese and Indian consumers will prefer their home teams and not let the foreigners rule over them. It's consumers in China and India who will determine losers and winners among today's auto companies really!"
 
I doubt Indian consumer's will prefer their home team car makers over the foreign makes if their cars are inferior. Already the biggest carmaker in India is a joint venture between Suzuki and a Indian company. The suzuki cars capture close to 50% of the consumer market. General Motors and Ford are also big sellers. GM sells many Isuzu designed vehicles as Chevy models over there. As well as Opel's are sold there. And recently, Honda and Toyota are making big inroads. The only strong homegrown Indian Automaker is Tata, which is doing quite well and even imports cars to parts of Europe these days. From experience though, Indian culture loves American stuff. They devour our music, movies, clothing brands, etc. I think if anything, GM, Toyota, Ford & Tata will end up being the top 4 brands. China on the otherhand, is alot more protectionist, and they will probably over the long term prefer their homegrown brands, but so far foreign carmakers like GM, Toyota, VW, & BMW are doing quite well.
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Re: Focus, please [kirstie_h] by rgsw
Jul 13, 2005 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Jul 13, 2005 6:42 am)

Concur with "HOST", this forum has degraded into a general forum for luxury and other cars. Let's get it back on topic....... 2007 LS
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Re: 8-speed [nvbanker] by nissman
Jul 14, 2005 (4:11 am)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Jul 10, 2005 3:00 pm)

"Maybe you know much more about this subject than I do - but Ford is working with the toroidal CVT according to an engineer friend - and if they can afford it, Toyota can surely afford it, and the LS would be the place to deploy it. "
 
Sorry, slow to get back as I had not heard of Ford and a Toroidal CVT trany. I cannot find any mention of it for production though - so maybe your engineering friend knows more than I do on that score. A web search seems to show them working on a full-toroidal IVT with a company called Torotrak - smaller, very fuel efficient and with geared neutral (neat). But the question still remains, has the LS got an expensive toroidal CVT or an 8-speed cog automatic trany?
 
I still have my doubts about the CVT/IVT possibility, but I also think a normal 8-speed might be a busy shifter - which are you hoping for?
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Re: 8-speed [nissman] by vatvatsetho
Jul 15, 2005 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: nissman (Jul 14, 2005 4:11 am)

I also have my doubts on the CVT on the 460 and the GT versions. However it is very much possible that the 600h will have a CVT, considering that 400h has a CVT. And because that will probably reduce the quality of the ride, the 8-speed tranny, that would be a very busy shifter. I am thinking either a revised version of the 6-speed the LS has now, or a new 7-speed.
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Kevin by syswei
Jul 15, 2005 (5:18 pm)
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Replying to: yamamurakelvin (Jun 16, 2005 6:49 pm)

Assuming you are not watching the IS or GS boards, you might want to be aware that there is a general consensus among people interested in the IS that VDIM should have an on/off switch, so that the driver at his option can disable it. For example see: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=106455#25
 
I do understand that switching it off would have a safety impact, but I am sure Lexus could provide a label with that disclaimer.
 
P.S. I am not suggesting that such an option is needed for the LS. But the IS and GS, given their more sporty orientation, could use it.
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Re: Kevin [syswei] by oac
Jul 15, 2005 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: syswei (Jul 15, 2005 5:18 pm)

syswei: "But the IS and GS, given their more sporty orientation, could use it."
 
You are too nice to put it so mildly. Instead of "could use it", I'd say "NEEDS IT". Lexus should stop playing cop-and-robber. They either want to provide a sporty car, or want to provide a luxury car ? The LS is plenty luxurious for those inclined for such, the IS should be the complete opposite - plenty sporty, without any need for an intrusive nanny. Imagine the build quality, refinement and luxury features of an IS combined with the edgy performance of a WRX/STi or Evo in the 2006 IS350? That car will rock the world of the e90/G/Audi and re-define the sector... Suffice to say, that it'd be a winner anyday.... Why-o-why won't Lexus take their foot off the *safety-at-all-cost* for the IS and let this car be a true sport-biased luxury sedan as everyone wants it to be ???? I'll repeat myself here: LEXUS, are you listening ?????
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Re: Kevin [oac] by syswei
Jul 15, 2005 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: oac (Jul 15, 2005 5:34 pm)

Agreed. It is especially true with the IS that Lexus should go "all the way" with sport, because it is similar in price to the ES, so the ES can serve the cushy-ride type of buyer.
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Re: 8-speed [vatvatsetho] by rcf8000
Jul 15, 2005 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: vatvatsetho (Jul 15, 2005 9:52 am)

Before Lexus goes to 8 speeds, I'd like to see them properly program the 6 speed. It is way too anxious to upshift and way too reluctant to downshift. I am very disappointed in it.
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Re: Kevin [oac] by vatvatsetho
Jul 15, 2005 (9:41 pm)
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Replying to: oac (Jul 15, 2005 5:34 pm)

AMEN!!!!! basically every other luxury nameplate that has, a safety system... has an override option; or isnt has 'parenting' as the Lexus systems. The last GS had this option, but it wouldn't fully turn off. why oh why cant lexus listen to its customers, and just have an 'off' switch.
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Lexus LS by jchan2
Jul 16, 2005 (3:47 am)
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Does anybody have anything new to add?

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