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Gaining market share is a funny thing in this class, as the LS has always played in the E-Class swimming pool, but with S-Class luxury. Expect Lexus to jump into the $65k+ class, and I expect the Hybrid GT/600h to float around 100K. The new look R&T and C&D are floating is a combination last-gen 740 and 1st-gen LS. I don't know who has seen the rear-end, but I have said it before, and will say it again. The 5-series is the best-looking car in the mid-size lux class. Not in love with the angular, stark interior, or the overcompensating nannies messin' with a ride that wasn't broke. But I hope the 5-series style does make it's way East, Far East! I wanted the GS to look like the current 5. The new GS has grown on me too. I expect a 460, a 5liter, and a 600h, gaining 12-15k per iteration, catching 100-110k at the max. A 460 will max at $80k. As far as "gaining share", Lexus will still sell 30-35k LS, even with a significant price increase. And the "hippy" new S-Class is trying to give Lexus help they really don't need. Success is a given for this car. DrFill
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Replying to: callmedrfill (Jul 11, 2005 7:53 am) Don't expect many to agree with you here. The 5-series is a disjointed eyesore to me. |
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Replying to: jblak (Jul 11, 2005 4:23 am) |
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I think that the German makers have made a lot of mistakes lately (still love those SL65AMGS, but what can I do?) and I'm completely sure that Lexus will be able to outsell them in Europe someday. People will say that the only reason that Lexus is the #1 selling luxury car marque in the US is because of their SUVs. And I say, "so?" This might be a bad thing if none of the Germans made SUVs, but they all do. And obviously, there's something that people like more about the Lexus. I personally think that the 5-series looks better than the STS, M35/45, and S-Type but not as good lookin as the GS or A6. "I don't see them ever going to a Rolls level and you hardly need that" They can't. The weird thing about Rolls and Bentley is that even if they didn't revise their cars for ten years and other superlux makers came out, they'd still sell. You know why? They're named Rolls-Royce and Bentley. They are burned into the public's mind as unattainable and therefore, worthy of lust. Maybach? What's a Maybach? Unless you were around in the 1920's, it doesn't mean much. It takes heritage to build a car company like that..... and even Toyota can't buy that  I agree, the S-Class looks weird. Not as blatently ugly as the 7-Series, but not a good lookin car at all. |
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| a bit off topic...I read that in the month of June when GM started its "employee discount for everyone" campaign, fully 69% of units sold were SUVs/pickups. | |
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“Be careful around here, as syswei cautioned. The Germancarfans are gonna pounce sooner or later, and its gonna become a free-for-all....” Heh, heh… I see you have a new bright-eyed, bushy-tailed recruit selling Kool-Aid. You guys are funny!
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Replying to: designman (Jul 11, 2005 2:03 pm) I'd hope you would add more to the debate on what you think about the posts from jblak wrt Lexus v MB/BMW/Audi.... Do you see much truth in it, or is it all about Kool-Aid-drinking Camp Lexus 
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Replying to: oac (Jul 11, 2005 2:24 pm) “Are there any Benz or BMW takers out there? If so, you're as foolish as the rest of the German Car Idiot's out there.” |
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Replying to: designman (Jul 11, 2005 3:05 pm) The new GS did not miss really. Rather, I'd say that it is a scheduling *problem* at Lexus to blame for the new GS. The engines designed for the new GS are the 3.5L and 4.6L, and the hybrid powerplant 450H. Unfortunately, neither of these engines were ready at launch. The 450H arrives next spring, and the 350 and 460-badged GS in the spring of 2007, or earlier (note that Japan gets the GS350 this Fall at launch). The LS is being cast, once again, as the de facto leader of the pack for the new-look Lexus, and all are being arranged (or re-arranged if you so wish) to afford the biggest bang for the next LS. The IS would do well, but it is by no means the key car for Lexus; its the LS that really starts things off, and then you start seeing the whole bunch arriving in quick succession: GS350/460 LS600H IS500 LS GT etc... circa 2007 when Lexus starts its ball rolling. The GS/IS are floor moppers for the next LS....
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Replying to: oac (Jul 11, 2005 3:23 pm) |
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