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#3313 of 3321 Rear leg room by fhagemann Apr 16, 2007 (7:12 am)
Having just traded a '04 LS 430 for an LS 460L, the comment about more rear leg room in the '04 is just ludicrous. You don't need specs or a tape measure, just sit in both cars and use your common sense. Replies to this message: iball (Apr 17, 2007 6:38 pm)
#3314 of 3321 Criticize the right message by woppenhe Apr 16, 2007 (11:17 am)
Were you addressing woppenhe or iball. Couldn't tell which of us were giving comments that you were calling ludicrous. Perhaps both of us.
#3315 of 3321 Re: No rush to trade up to the 460L. Still enjoying my 430. [woppenhe] by knowspinzone Apr 16, 2007 (12:39 pm)
Replying to: woppenhe (Apr 15, 2007 8:58 pm) Woppenhe, I'd like to read your post, but its very difficult. Paragraphs are your friend. Replies to this message: woppenhe (Apr 16, 2007 7:16 pm) arizonamike (Apr 17, 2007 10:50 pm) woppenhe (Apr 18, 2007 4:32 pm)
#3316 of 3321 Re: No rush to trade up to the 460L. Still enjoying my 430. [woppenhe] by nvbanker Apr 16, 2007 (5:07 pm)
Replying to: woppenhe (Apr 15, 2007 8:58 pm) You read my mind.....
#3317 of 3321 Re: No rush to trade up to the 460L. Still enjoying my 430. [knowspinzone] by woppenhe Apr 16, 2007 (7:16 pm)
Replying to: knowspinzone (Apr 16, 2007 12:39 pm) You are right. Not worth reading. Don't burden yourself. Sorry, just a free flow loose association of ideas late one night. Replies to this message: arizonamike (Apr 17, 2007 10:50 pm) woppenhe (Apr 18, 2007 4:32 pm)
#3318 of 3321 Re: Rear leg room [fhagemann] by iball Apr 17, 2007 (6:38 pm)
Replying to: fhagemann (Apr 16, 2007 7:12 am) DEAR fhagemann    I DID SIT IN BOTH CARS!!!! The "measurement" was a practical one. Best of luck in your new car. Enjoy                        Iball
#3319 of 3321 Re: No rush to trade up to the 460L. Still enjoying my 430. [woppenhe] by arizonamike Apr 17, 2007 (10:50 pm)
Replying to: woppenhe (Apr 16, 2007 7:16 pm) I enjoyed reading your every rambling word, paragraphs or not. As a prior owner of a 2001 ultra LS 430 and now a Touring 460L, your comments were interesting to me.   When you buy your new big sedan you will love the blue tooth phone and the upgraded nav, the interior size, styling and beautifully redesigned dash. It will quickly prove to be a nice place to be. It is easier to rest your arm and do paperwork on the higher center console and it feels safer. Fabulous sound system, more air bags than a national political conference and safety features ad infinitum.     I have read all the complainers (one crybaby in particular) and I discount them all as much to do about nothing. 1. I think the Car and Driver brake report was 100% unfounded and incorrect. My car stops real quick. Faster than the 2001. 2. There is plenty of foot room on the drivers side. I am long legged and 6'1" 3. The wiper issue has already been debunked. 4. Hard seats? I could not sit in my 2001 without one of those aftermarket $300 lumbar back supports since the lumbar did not work well enough to prevent back pain. I have not needed that in the new car and find the seats much more comfortable. 5. Cant get garage door remote to work? That was ME complaining on this or another blog. I tried for 3 months to get it to work. The dealer sent a guy up and got it to work on both the garage and gate in less than 5 minutes. Guess I can't follow directions. 6. I think that the guy who was a Lexus groupie and then sold all his Lexuses because he could not keep his foot on the brake is simply a case of getting old and not adapting to new technology fast enough.       I was a quicker, more alert driver at 45 when I bought my first LS car in 1990 than I am at 62 in my new car. That's just life.   I truly enjoyed his enthuastic support of the Mark and am sorry to see him blame the car for his accident rather than on his own inattention. Remember the Audi fiasco back in the 90's where drivers claimed the cars accelerated when they applied the brakes(actually they were on the gas)?   After buying I actually had quite a list of "differences" between my 01 and 07 cars. I complained to myself about missing certain features that the ULTRA had but have moved on and am very happy with my decision.   It's unsettling to make a major buying decision and then to let it go sour by turning molehills into mountains. I say make the lease payments and enjoy the ride! Replies to this message: woppenhe (Apr 18, 2007 4:32 pm)
#3320 of 3321 Re: No rush to trade up to the 460L. Still enjoying my 430. [arizonamike] by woppenhe Apr 18, 2007 (4:32 pm)
Replying to: arizonamike (Apr 17, 2007 10:50 pm) Yes, that was the kind of response I was after. Someone else who is making the transition from a 2001 to a 2007. What were some of the other differences you refer to, and how has the servcve been thus far. I agree witht your assessment of the brakes and the creeping into the intersection. did you looki at any other cars before trading to the 2007. I have looked but cannot find anything better or more reliable, forget the price. I am also 62. Perhaps we need an airbag for each decade.
#3321 of 3321 Re: Michell is Alright [mitchellrowe] by rennybosch Apr 22, 2007 (12:29 pm)
Replying to: mitchellrowe (Apr 12, 2007 6:01 pm) Hi Mitchell, thanks for your detailed reply. I have been on vacation in Palm Springs and so wasn't able to read your message earlier.   It's scary to think that with all these computer controlled mechanisms in a car - drive-by-wire, brake-by-wire, whatever - sometimes a glitch can apparently occur.   I'm glad nobody got hurt, and thanks again for your report.   Best regards, Renny

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