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Lexus LS 460, Sedan
Jan 10, 2007 (10:35 pm)
LEXUS LS 460 & 460L HAS MISSED THE BOAT IN ONE LUXURY CATAGORY!!------REAR LEG ROOM!! 35.8 FOR THE 460, & 37.8 FOR THE460L. GET THIS------ THE CAMERY IS 38.3 [OTHER MID-SIZED CARS-LINCOLN MKZ 37.0, SEBRING 37.6"]
I SAT BEHIND THE DRIVER'S SEAT [WHICH I SET FOR MYSELF 5'8"]ON A LS460, AND MY SHOES [INSTEPS] HAD TO SLIP UNDER THE FRONT SEAT TO BE THE LEAST BIT COMFORTABLE!
CADILLAC 42.0, MB=42.3 LEXUS REALLY GOOFED ON THIS "LUXURY" POINT!
ANY VALIDITY TO THE RUMOR THAT THE 460LS TKES 170' TO STOP AT 60MPH??-------BRAKES DON'T FEEL AS SMOOTH AS MY FRIEND'S 2007 CADILLAC.
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
#3273 of 3322 Psychiatric Treatment
Jan 11, 2007 (11:50 am)
Oh...the details of a new car like the LS460. I'm just going to ignor the little nice ubiquitus things like automatic seat adjustments and keyless entry and unique stupid idiotic things like the auto parking gizmo that probably no one will ever use and more gears than you'll ever need. First of all, I am nearing medicare age and drive the 2001 LS 430 with 65K miles without many options and goodness it's a great car and simple too. I just can't tell you all the times I prayed for auto closing doors, and for the car to be longer, shorter and wider than my car. I can't tell you because I never prayed for such things. Oh the new LS460 is pretty nice looking for a boat both inside and out. And all the times I wished for a car that could go to 60 MPH under 6 seconds. Never! Of course, I only drove the LS 460 for a few minutes and it drove okay but I can't really get a decent test drive because the darn things are sold and immediately gone at almost all dealers who wouldn't dare cut the price a nickle. Apparently a bunch of you just have the newest model or somehow your ego will hurt. How sad that your ego is tied to a car rather than to yourself. So buy the car and go for a ride on our crowded streets where if you are lucky you average 30 MPH, and feel good about yourself at least until the next best thing comes available. Personally, if you are so inclined, I suggest you don't buy this boat and spend the money you save at a psychiatrist office and get on some decent meds to overcome your insecurities.
#3274 of 3322 Re: Psychiatric Treatment [dan67]
Jan 11, 2007 (9:00 pm)
So, you're bitter dan? Why? Why deny me that thrill that comes from a new exciting car? You're a stick in the mud.
#3275 of 3322 Hey Mr. Lvbanker
Jan 11, 2007 (9:56 pm)
Yes Mr. Lvbanker. I am a stick in the mud. But to trade in a perfectly terrific late model LS 430 just to get the newer LS 460 is very narcacistic and infantile. We both know any excitement from a new car lasts about a month or so. Happiness, as you know, does not come from buying things. Happiness comes from inner peace. (by the way who gave you a license to practice medicine?)
#3276 of 3322 Re: Hey Mr. Lvbanker [dan67]
Jan 12, 2007 (6:20 am)
"But to trade in a perfectly terrific late model LS 430 just to get the newer LS 460 is very narcacistic and infantile"
A generalization like that makes as much sense as snow in Miami. Give me a break Dan. You change cars because you want to and what drives you to do so are caused by many variables that range from styling to changed driving dynamics. Is someone infantile because they want to paint a room a different color even though the old paint is still fresh and looks fine. Are they infantile because thet want a 1080P TV with a high contrast ratio and a stunning TV picture vs a 720P picture with a lower contrast that is just a very good picture. People buy new things because they are better, safer and deliver more for the dollar than old things and because they have the money to afford the things they want. There's nothing wrong with holding onto your old LS430 and equally there's nothing wrong with those who want to experience a new LS460 or any other lux car. To generalize the way you do is crazy and very sad. Thank God all people don't have your attitude because if they did our economy would have died a long time ago. It's also too bad you have such a chip on your shoulder.
#3277 of 3322 Trade the Old Car
Jan 12, 2007 (6:42 am)
I traded in my 2004 LS430 with 20,763 miles on it (3 years old in October, 2006) for the 2007 LS460.
I did it because I could. I did it because I wanted a new car. I did it because my car was 3 years old and I very rarely keep a car longer than 3 years. I have owned outright all but one of my cars (a lease) since I started driving in 1964.
You don't have to have a valid reason (to some people) to get a new car. You only have to validate it to yourself. And that I did.
#3278 of 3322 I must be the most stupid one here.
Jan 12, 2007 (6:54 am)
12 new Lexuses over the last 4 years, including five LS430s and one LX470. I do not think I am narcissitic or infantile. Can you tell I love cars, Lexus in particular?
Back to the topic: I have taken the new LS460 for a short drive and want to go back for a longer test drive. It does have a more germanic feel to it, comparable to the Audi A8 and the VW Phaeton, but still different from a BMW 7 series or an MB S class.
The big question for me would be, do I want a more germanic feel or prefer the old style softer Lexus LS?
#3279 of 3322 Re: IBALL [iball]
Jan 12, 2007 (8:11 am)
Wow, where did you get that data? I have not been able to find leg room numbers for the 460. What did you find for front leg room? The 430 is one of the best at 44". The 430 rear leg room is 37.6, surely the 460L is way more than that! I thought the entire 10" increase in length went into the back seat. I do agree with you, interior space and comfort is a major reason for buying a HELC.
#3280 of 3322 Dear Mr. Dssxxx & Cheng
Jan 12, 2007 (8:15 am)
Mr. Dssxxx: While I haven't had a chance for an extended drive in the LS 460 I think I buy Lexus because of it's comfort and more important it's reliability. So, not being in my 20's anymore, I go for "softness" as long as it drives competently. Also, I'm tired of hearing my friends with their pretty BMW's and MB complaining about constant problems and numerous repairs at snobbish dealers. I've owned a 2000 Porsche and they are fun on the exact right twisty road but a horror on normal streets and highways. Give me soft anytime.
Mr. Cheng, I think you need to analize your reasons for getting a whopping 12 new Lexuses over just 4 years! I think I was right in saying that the joy (especially for you) of getting a new car only lasts a few months and then whatever neurosis you have starts the endless desire something newer. I doubt you will ever be happy until you (and many here) come to grips with that simple fact and find some inner peace. At least Mr. Dssxxxx kept his for 3 years which may be a carryover from earlier times when cars started to have problems in that time frame.
Jan 12, 2007 (8:41 am)
Finding "inner peace" and wanting new material things are not mutually exclusive.