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Lexus LS 460/LS 460L Styling Impressions

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ljflx and others by cyclone4
Oct 22, 2006 (6:59 pm)
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Len, are you still waiting for the LS600HL or have you changed your mind and going with the LS460L? As you know I am first in line for the LS600HL at my dealer. However, I am starting to have second thoughts after hearing the horror stories about its trunk. I was at my dealer the other day for the showing of the LS460 and LS460L. A couple of sales reps were telling me that they have seen the trunk and it is minuscule. It extends only two feet inward from the rear. That is very disappointing to me. A trunk size as big as the LS460L with rear seat upgrade would be acceptable. But the 600HL will be considerably smaller according to these guys. The AWD is one of the reasons I wanted the 600HL. Do we know for sure if the LS460L will be available with AWD next year? If so, that would probably clinch it for me. The past few days, I have been going back and forth with this dilemma. One moment I am thinking that I can adjust with a tiny trunk but then the next moment I am thinking that I will not be happy. What happens if my wife and I are taking a trip with a couple of friends? What do we do with the luggage? We cannot lay it on the back seat. What to do? It's driving me wacko.
 
By the way, I also test drove the LS460L while at the dealer this past Friday. I only drove it for about 15-20 minutes (others waiting to drive it). It is a wonderful automobile. I found nothing wrong with the breaks. I bring this up this a few on the HELM board were complaining about the breaks. It is incredibly smooth and quiet but you now hear a roar of the engine if you step on it. The seats are definitely more comfortable than my current LS430. I love the auto break feature when in heavy stop and go traffic. You only need to activate it once and it will stay that way on the other stops. My salesman demonstrated the advanced parking feature for me. I was impressed. I think that it will be something quite useful. It does not take much time at all to activate. Once you get use to it, it should be a piece of cake. The power trunk is also neat. There are obviously many other amazing features to this car besides the above.
 
I suppose the second paragraph of this post should have gone on the first drive forum, but I do not want to break it up and place the first paragraph here and the second there. If the hosts want to move it than so be it. This is one of the problems of multiple boards for the same car.
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Re: ljflx and others [cyclone4] by syswei
Oct 23, 2006 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Oct 22, 2006 6:59 pm)

Do we know for sure if the LS460L will be available with AWD next year?
 
Not known for sure, but I was told that we wouldn't get AWD on the 460 until late calendar 2007 at the earliest. For more info see this post.
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Re: ljflx and others [syswei] by cyclone4
Oct 23, 2006 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: syswei (Oct 23, 2006 5:13 am)

syswei, your information is very much appreciated. I see that you also have a problem with the LS600HL trunk size. It is a shame because I really wanted to purchase this car. Has anyone actually seen the specs on the 600HL trunk?
 
AWD cannot get here soon enough on the LS460L.
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Re: ljflx and others [cyclone4] by ljflx
Oct 23, 2006 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Oct 23, 2006 6:54 am)

Cyclone - My news is similar to Syswei's but someone mentioned to me that March or April may be the point where AWD becomes an option. I'll have to see the trunk on the 600HL but a well equipped $82-83K LS460L with air suspension and AWD looks like a great deal to me as well. I'd love to test that sport suspension on the LS460L and I've thought seriously about that car. But you'll need snows in winter plus AWD if you're in a snow climate and take the sport suspension. The only thing I've ruled out right now is the SWB car. I'm listed for both the LS460L and the HL right now. My lease is due in late March. If AWD is right around the corner I'll just extend my lease. My 430 is the usual perfect car.
 
I'm dropping by the dealership on Thursday or Frday and will let you know what info I gather.
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A review from an LS460L owner... by oac
Oct 23, 2006 (11:04 am)
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http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244679
 
very nicely done.... great read as well.... Would help some of us aspiring 460 owners get some more info on this car.
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Fleetrates.com by ljflx
Oct 23, 2006 (12:18 pm)
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Some of the initial LS prices from these guys, in case anyone wants to bypass dealers who are pricy or have no stock, and get the car shipped. One way or another this is a good benchmark for lease deals though. The lease prices include 10% MSRP down so interest effect that and divide by lease term and then add to the advertised lease prices to get a zero down lease. You can price MB, BMW, Bentley and others here as well.
 
One thing to note is they only have 3 cars to sell and usually they have tons. Bad sign for early buyers as this is indicative of high demand. Fleetrates initially was purely Lexus and then expanded so they typically have a lot of Lexus cars available vs their other brands.
 
http://fleetrates.com/index.htm?start=0&certified=&SBmake=Lexus&SBmodel=LS+460
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Re: ljflx and others [ljflx] by cyclone4
Oct 23, 2006 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: ljflx (Oct 23, 2006 10:34 am)

I would definitely go for the air suspension. I really do not want to deal with snow tires if at all possible.
 
I'll be waiting for some good news after your visit to the dealer late this week.
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Re: ljflx and others [cyclone4] by woppenhe
Oct 29, 2006 (7:52 pm)
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Oct 23, 2006 12:50 pm)

LS is about being smooth, powerful, and quiet. Why would anyone wnat a tighter suspension. Or oversize touring tires?
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Knock, knock ... by pat HOST
Oct 30, 2006 (9:13 am)
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... housekeeping!
 
In an attempt to make it easier to follow the LS 460 discussions, I have renamed this board and moved all the LS 400 and LS 430 discussions to a new board here: Lexus LS 400/LS 430. There are a few discussions shared across both boards (one example: Meet the Members).
 
If you were tracking any discussion I moved, I believe you will have to re-track it now. You can go to that link and check them out.
 
You should not have lost any of the discussions you were tracking in this group, nor should you have lost tracking of the entire group, if that's what you were doing.
 
If you are not tracking the entire group, I again urge you do so here so you don't miss anything. I encourage you to make new discussions for different LS 460 topics and I will be doing the same.
 
If you have logistical questions, feel free to email me or post them in the Software discussion.
 
Carry on!
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Re: ljflx and others [woppenhe] by nvbanker
Oct 31, 2006 (4:37 pm)
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Replying to: woppenhe (Oct 29, 2006 7:52 pm)

LS is about being smooth, powerful, and quiet. Why would anyone wnat a tighter suspension. Or oversize touring tires?
 
It's beyond me why anybody would change the dynamics of this car with any wheel changes not available through Lexus. Engineers have spent millions matching the suspension with wheels and tires that optimize the handling characteristics of this expensive car. You can't improve it - only screw it up with any aftermarket changes at all.

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