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#31 of 3321 oac by lexusguy Jan 19, 2005 (2:07 pm)
I like to drive a 3 series, but I wouldnt really want to own one. Dont you still get stuck with a tape deck and REALLY poor NAV system? Oh and something like 11 cu.ft of trunk space? The '05 G35x is my pick of the segment until the IS350 possibly displaces it. Replies to this message: oac (Jan 19, 2005 8:59 pm)
#32 of 3321 I wouldn't hold me breath for a 550HP LS by callmedrfill Jan 19, 2005 (6:30 pm)
The new one should have at least 350HP, but any hybrid wouldn't add more than 100HP, at the absolute most.     I think they'd sell 50HP to get Accord Hybrid mileage (29/37 or better!)     Do they need a V10 or V12 with superpowered hybrids? I doubt it.        DrFill
#33 of 3321 callmedrfill by lexusguy Jan 19, 2005 (8:16 pm)
Yeah Lexus is still working on being able to compete with the AMG 5.5L V8, let alone their new 6.0L twin turbo 12 "65" engine. I agree Lexus is more interested in class leading fuel economy than Mercedes horsepower insanity.
#34 of 3321 Re: oac [lexusguy] by oac Jan 19, 2005 (8:59 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 19, 2005 2:07 pm) Don't need no stinking NAV in a 3-er. I want to drive the car not live in it. Now, if you are talking about the LS, that is another story entirely. I want it all loaded up with all the gadgets. It is my pleasure cush-mobile.   Currently, I have an '03 Matrix which is a lotta fun to drive with the "Rolla engine. When I drive that car, I am like a 17-yr-old boy-racer, not a 40+-old middle-aged guy.   The 2007 LS will have a SWB 4.6L engine turning out 350-ish bhp. I'll expect a 5.7-5.9s 0-60. The LWB version + hybrid should be close to 500bhp (350 gas + 100 battery), and should be mid-5s 0-60. This car will probably retail close to $90K, going against the 760 and the S500. The *regular* SWB model should be in the mid-70's price-wise.
#35 of 3321 Two Tings! by callmedrfill Jan 20, 2005 (7:04 am)
One Ting: The LS already runs around 6 seconds with 290HP, so adding 60HP, plus torque, would make it into mid-5s, as long as the car stays south of 4300 lbs.     A 450HP car depends on weight being under 5000 lbs.     Lexus is nothing if not efficient, even in their LS brouchures stating NO CAR should weight 2 1/2 tons!     2nd Ting: Lexus will stay under $65k with the new car!     Value is their advantage in the market. They have a deathgrip on the market, approaching a 3:1 sales advantage over the Germans, which means TWO TINGS:     1st Ting: They can sell for more.     Second Ting: They need to keep this advantage WHILE selling for more!     I'd guess a low $60s price, and a nice package to keep the prie around $70k, then anoher package to move the price to $80k, then you start the LWB model around there, with MUCH more power & economy than a S500!     That model should be pretty loaded, and top out short of $90k.     People are trumping up the next S-Class.     It'll be a knocked-off Maybach. It could work, but I don't know what the base car will pack, or will price, so we'll see.     This new LS will be like an Atomic Bomb in the market! I think the 7-series, in particular will be crushed, as it won't recover from the damage this generation has done to new and repeat buyers. The styling, ergonomics, and quality have really hurt the whole line.         DrFill
#36 of 3321 Possible pic of next LS? by dc661 Jan 28, 2005 (9:56 am)
Replies to this message: oac (Jan 28, 2005 10:15 am) designman (Feb 05, 2005 4:25 pm) oac (Feb 05, 2005 5:06 pm) cargeek (Mar 20, 2005 7:23 pm)
#37 of 3321 Re: Possible pic of next LS? [dc661] by oac Jan 28, 2005 (10:15 am)
Replying to: dc661 (Jan 28, 2005 9:56 am) It bears no striking resemblance to the LF-S, imo. What's with those different rims ??? Is that how new cars are tested, or is it a photochopped pic of the Avalon stretched to look like an LS?
#38 of 3321 It Toyota Crown by speedlux Jan 28, 2005 (12:08 pm)
It's not a next LS, It's a toyota Crown. A sport sedan with RWD and AWD of toyota as shown on toyota website. It about the size of the last generation LS400. I believed it has been release in Europe. This will kill Ford 500, and chrysler 300.
#39 of 3321 That's too small to be an LS by callmedrfill Jan 28, 2005 (6:18 pm)
I generally get the impression the LS will have a much bolder look than that.      You can tell by that rear door the car is less than 5 meters.      DrFill
#40 of 3321 LS460 Officially Coming in Fall 2006 by jamesfletcher2 Jan 31, 2005 (8:16 pm)
Lexus Division General Manager Denny Clements announced at the NADA convention that just finished up the following official new redesign products and release dates:    GS 350/GS 460 Spring 2005 IS 250/IS 350 Fall 2005 ES 350 Spring 2006 GS 450h Spring 2006 LS 460 Fall 2006    As you can see, the new LS will be 4.6 liters and a 2007 model. I hope this helps with the limited flow of accurate new model release dates from Lexus. Replies to this message: drivetrain (Feb 02, 2005 11:49 am) jamesfletcher2 (Feb 02, 2005 2:48 pm)

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