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| the fact that the LS has always had a gorgeous interior, they better really put on a good show this generation. I'm sure that it will be good, but the question is: how good? | |
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Well, I guess since I need to get the LS as soon as it comes out, I will have to get on the waiting list as soon as the local Lexus Dealer creates one. I guess that would probably be around when the car is announced... in Detroit? Or Tokyo? Does anybody recommend a specific Lexus dealer in the Detroit area? I am edging to either Lexus of Ann Arbor or Lexus because I haven't been impressed with Meade in the past. In regards to a large people moving machine, I also recommend the Sienna. While I would prefer a Lexus (in regards to luxury), the Sienna XLE Limited is well equipped. In fact, although it doesn't have typical Lexus perks such as auto windows on every door and high quality wood and leather, the Sienna Limited has adaptive cruise control which works well, rear view camera, xenon lights, and other things that are NOT standard on the any Lexus. Minivans also get better gas mileage (the sienna takes premium, so mileage makes a difference) and are more user friendly in terms of space, though the engines, styling and handling leave a lot to be desired. But if you need to carry that many passengers, the sienna is the way to go (my wife drives the sienna for the kids, but since the kids are almost gone this may be the last minivan we get). I will stick with LS, though I don't carry too many passengers, and don't haul around the kids. My son drives a Highlander Limited, which is pretty nice. Again, I may have preferred a Lexus based on higher reliability (on avg. according to Consumer Reports) and service, but the RX is more of a "mother's" car according to him, and I was happy to buy him a less expensive car. A Lexus version of the Rav4 would have been excellent for him though. I wanted a smaller car for him than the Highlander, but the Rav4 was not suitable, with its 4 cylinder engine and lack of amenities. Actually, I guess what I have to decide is whether to get a GS300 AWD in September '06 or a LS460 AWD in September '06 (will they have an AWD LS by September? Where I live AWD or FWD is essential with the hills and winter snow). Would the LS be a) available in AWD and b) worth the lack of discount and also lack of rating by Consumer Reports or JD Powers. *sorry... I seem to have had trouble collecting my thoughts concisely and coherently.
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Replying to: nexuslexus (Jun 13, 2005 11:43 am) No problem. I think you did just great.... You are the target market for the next LS (I am also), and I think that the LS will probably go on the Tokyo Motor Show later this year, at least that's what some car mags in Japan are speculating. If that happens, then you and many of us can start to see what the real LS460 and its many other variants will look like. Clearly, this car will set and raise the bar on luxury full-size sedans once again, a la 1989. The new 4.6L in the SWB LS will probably not rate higher than 350HP, with a 3xxIb ft of torque. MPG will remain in the low 20s, despite the higher outputs from the new dual vvt-i engines. Straightline speed will remain under 6s 0-60, with the 4.6L/6A setup (heck, the current 290HP motor gets to 60 in 5.9s). And luxury features will be well done, as typical Lexus. I am waiting for this car, and will not get on a waiting list tho'. If these are hard to get, you can always employ the services of car shopping agents offered from your local credit union or Costco, for example.
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Replying to: oac (Jun 13, 2005 3:16 pm) And would the Costco car program be able to find you a hard to find car? Or would they just be able to get you a better deal? |
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"Would the LS be a) available in AWD and b) worth the lack of discount and also lack of rating by Consumer Reports or JD Powers." An AWD Lexus LS is a big question mark at this point. Its a possibility.. but I'm not really expecting one. As for reliability ratings, dont worry about it. The SC430 and LS430 hold the #1 and #2 spots in the world for reliability. I seriously doubt that would change with the new model. |
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| My opinion is that we'll definitely see AWD LSs. The questions are when and in what form (hybrid or conventional or both). | |
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Well... I have confirmed AWD will be available on the LS, I don't remember exactly where but I believe it was at the NAIAS. I just hope it will be available immediately (the GS AWD was available from launch right?... or actually, I haven't seen any new GS's on the road... have they even been released yet?) I would have to settle for a GS if they aren't AWD LS in september '06. |
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Interesting, an AWD LS is news to me. Yes, the GS300 AWD was available at launch. That was definitely necessary, I'm sure they didnt want to give away any sales to the M35x or RL.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 13, 2005 8:01 pm) |
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Yes, I believe that AWD will be essential for the LS's increased success in the Northeast and the few other northern cities where the LS is targeted (Detroit, Chicago, Windsor, etc.). Like they didn't want to give market share to the G35x or the RL, they won't want to give share to the S500 4matic or the A8 Quatro.
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