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Sedans Lexus LS 460/460L Lexus LS 460/LS 460L Styling Impressions
3321 messages, Last post on Apr 22, 2007 at 12:29 PM
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I suspect that it will be very hot as far as these large luxury sedans go. People are pining away for a big powerful hybrid... and that can only help sales and publicity for the LS460. I would also suspect that it will be a little while before they start taking out waiting lists though. Jchan2, if you really want to transport 7 or 8 people, I owuld go with a Sienna. It's more luxurious than a Freestyle. The backseat is a lot bigger, too. |
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"Jchan2, if you really want to transport 7 or 8 people, I owuld go with a Sienna. It's more luxurious than a Freestyle. The backseat is a lot bigger, too." I agree. Also, the Freestyle really needs that new 3.5L engine Ford is working on, the Ford Taurus V6 is just not enough for a car like that. The Ford Taurus V6 is not enough for the Ford Taurus.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 12, 2005 2:24 pm) Anyways... Back to the LS (a car I'd probably never be able to afford) Will it get longer? It seems pretty long already... |
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I doubt it. According to Edmunds: "The Ford Freestar and Mercury Monterey minivans will be discontinued after 2007, about the same time the Ford Freestyle wagon will be phased out, according to supplier sources familiar with the automaker's plans. In its place, Mercury will get a freshened version of what was the Chicago-built Freestyle as a 2007 or 2008 model, finally giving the brand some differentiation from Ford and Lincoln." The Freestyle will apparently be replaced with a Ford version of the Lincoln Aviator, probably using the same 3.5L engine that the Aviator is supposed to debut. There will be a LWB version of the LS, so yes, its going to get longer. |
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is making quite the wise investment! These vehicles are being discontinued right after the ad launch! Anyone who can't see how ugly the Freestyle is, and is willing to pay for the same old, tired Duratec deserves the resale value they git! I'm tempted to get on a Lexus LS waiting list just to get the word straight from the horse's mouth in updates and product knowledge. In 15 years the car hasn't grown longer to please the Japanese market, where smaller is better, but a LWB will be made available here in America, because it would sell BIG! DrFill |
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I think whats happened is Ford finally woke up and figured out that they have absolutely no hope of ever competing with the T&C\Caravan. Now they're chasing the Pacifica instead. Making the Freestyle just to kill it and then re-launch it as a Mercury is a little odd though. They are desperately trying to establish some sort of difference between Ford and Mercury, and thus are juggling at least 2 or 3 x-over SUV products around. GM may be getting all of the bad press, but Ford's product portfolio is the one that is an absolute mess. I'm very interested to see what Lexus interior designers do with the next LS. The Phaeton and A8 have set the bar extremely high for the level of elegance and luxury available in this class. Lexus has their work cut out for them. |
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The IS is a major advance in this class, as good as (or better) than the TL and A4, easily better than Infiniti and BMW. DrFill |
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| Oh I'm not worried, I just want to see it. I think its going to be amazing. | |
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| the fact that the LS has always had a gorgeous interior, they better really put on a good show this generation. I'm sure that it will be good, but the question is: how good? | |
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Well, I guess since I need to get the LS as soon as it comes out, I will have to get on the waiting list as soon as the local Lexus Dealer creates one. I guess that would probably be around when the car is announced... in Detroit? Or Tokyo? Does anybody recommend a specific Lexus dealer in the Detroit area? I am edging to either Lexus of Ann Arbor or Lexus because I haven't been impressed with Meade in the past. In regards to a large people moving machine, I also recommend the Sienna. While I would prefer a Lexus (in regards to luxury), the Sienna XLE Limited is well equipped. In fact, although it doesn't have typical Lexus perks such as auto windows on every door and high quality wood and leather, the Sienna Limited has adaptive cruise control which works well, rear view camera, xenon lights, and other things that are NOT standard on the any Lexus. Minivans also get better gas mileage (the sienna takes premium, so mileage makes a difference) and are more user friendly in terms of space, though the engines, styling and handling leave a lot to be desired. But if you need to carry that many passengers, the sienna is the way to go (my wife drives the sienna for the kids, but since the kids are almost gone this may be the last minivan we get). I will stick with LS, though I don't carry too many passengers, and don't haul around the kids. My son drives a Highlander Limited, which is pretty nice. Again, I may have preferred a Lexus based on higher reliability (on avg. according to Consumer Reports) and service, but the RX is more of a "mother's" car according to him, and I was happy to buy him a less expensive car. A Lexus version of the Rav4 would have been excellent for him though. I wanted a smaller car for him than the Highlander, but the Rav4 was not suitable, with its 4 cylinder engine and lack of amenities. Actually, I guess what I have to decide is whether to get a GS300 AWD in September '06 or a LS460 AWD in September '06 (will they have an AWD LS by September? Where I live AWD or FWD is essential with the hills and winter snow). Would the LS be a) available in AWD and b) worth the lack of discount and also lack of rating by Consumer Reports or JD Powers. *sorry... I seem to have had trouble collecting my thoughts concisely and coherently.
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