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#2334 of 3321 first comparison between LS and S550 is Out!!!!! by stevekilburn Aug 14, 2006 (3:44 pm)
link title   here is the link. Enjoy the pictures, text and great video.
#2335 of 3321 Re: those who want value pricing can buy Lexus GS/IS or Acura RL [stevekilb by houdini1 Aug 14, 2006 (3:49 pm)
Replying to: stevekilburn (Aug 14, 2006 3:22 pm) I agree that the LS should be priced as high or even higher than the S class, because it is a better car in all respects. What you need to concentrate on is getting Mercedes to LOWER their prices accordingly.   Audi is also not on my radar screen.
#2336 of 3321 Re: with LS and upcoming LX Lexus should improve its mix [stevekilburn] by atlas7 Aug 14, 2006 (4:01 pm)
Replying to: stevekilburn (Aug 14, 2006 3:33 pm) "Lexus has to drastically cut down on it's low end vehicles", yeah right and BMW is going to stop making the 3 series and MB will stop making the C class,,,,None of this is going to happen. The Lexus E350 keeps getting better and is a fine entry point for the Lexus buyer. It is selling like hot cakes in the US, the worlds largest car market. All of the Lexus models will "swim up stream" in areas of performance, reliability, luxury, etc...It is happening across the sedan product line and I suspect the SUV's and SC are next to "swim up stream" with new models. Regardless Lexus will deliver more for less. This will never change when you compare Lexus prices to the Germans.
#2337 of 3321 Re: LS 460 is a new edition and must evolve into a premium-HELM [stevekilburn] by ljflx Aug 14, 2006 (4:15 pm)
Replying to: stevekilburn (Aug 14, 2006 3:27 pm) You want them to stop producing a car that sells 90K units a year. That is a money machine for them. It'll never happen and many ES cars are now reaching $40-42K pricetags. Not bad for an entry point vehicle and higher than some of the competition. What a hole that would be in their model line-up. No chance on earth of this even being discussed at Lexus HQ (unless the person bringing it up wants to be fired on the spot) let alone happening.   Anyway this is a 2007 LS discussion, not an ES or even a Lexus brand discussion.
#2338 of 3321 Lexus pricing strategy = VALUE by tagman Aug 14, 2006 (4:16 pm)
This discussion about value has occurred many times on this and the HELM forum. The bottom line is always the same.   Most realize that "value" is an inherent and important component of the Lexus marketing strategy for the U.S. market. It also provides an important platform from which to launch other markets. Without the American market, the rest of the global picture would have serious difficulties, from a number of business perspectives. I'm quite sure ljflx understands this, and many of the rest of you do.   In any event, it is quite surprising to see the praise for Lexus at a peak, and then on the other hand to slam them as if they do not know how to market their own cars. Rest assured, Lexus is quite brilliant at building quality vehicles that appeal to the masses, as well as marketing them.   To stay on topic for this forum, as many of you will appreciate . . . the top-of-the-line LS600hL will create a new upper tier for the LS, and that vehicle will bring upper-end pricing to the LS. This vehicle will represent an "exclusive" vehicle and will be essentially without any real competition, IMO. Thus the price premium for this vehicle can be substantiated.   Again, particularly for the upcoming standard LS, value will continue to be an essential marketing component.   TagMan
#2339 of 3321 Re: LS 460 should be priced head-to-head with germans [ljflx] by nvbanker Aug 14, 2006 (4:32 pm)
Replying to: ljflx (Aug 14, 2006 3:29 pm) "Lexus took a step toward a tighter ride in 2001 and will take a larger step in 2007."   There is also a slight difference between the ride and handling of my 02 LS, and my 05 LS. The 05 is discernably tighter in the steering tolerance, though still weighted properly, and the ride is considerably more responsive. The tires and wheels were the same, exactly, so it has to be the car. The body style changed in 04, and I assume that's when the engineering change to the suspension also changed. Replies to this message: middlp23 (Aug 14, 2006 9:34 pm)
#2340 of 3321 Not to be rude but... by nexuslexus Aug 14, 2006 (4:51 pm)
Has anybody else noticed a bit of a decline in the quality of the posts to this board.   This is a board about the upcomming LS (right now, heavily focused on the LS600hl).   This is not the place to discuss the BMW 7-series, the MB S550 or the A8. Some discussion of them is ok, but we really don't need to have page after page of arguments over which is better, whether Lexus should increase the pricing, or what not. This is a form for information that we find, not for making incoherent and frankly amatuer suggestions to the most profitable automaker in the world.   Many of us are busy people, and we don't have time to read through all of these posts... if we could keep it on topic, that would be great.   Thanks,   nexuslexus. Replies to this message: tagman (Aug 14, 2006 5:12 pm) middlp23 (Aug 14, 2006 9:27 pm)
#2341 of 3321 Re: Not to be rude but... [nexuslexus] by tagman Aug 14, 2006 (5:12 pm)
Replying to: nexuslexus (Aug 14, 2006 4:51 pm) Has anybody else noticed a bit of a decline in the quality of the posts to this board.   Yes, you are smart to notice. And be warned that this is the same damaging process that a particular poster did to the HELM forum . . . constantly and relentlessly telling Lexus how to run its business and price structure, instead of accepting that Lexus is quite capable of doing what it does best.       TagMan
#2342 of 3321 I THINK I HAVE A RELEASE DATE by 123itsdee Aug 14, 2006 (5:59 pm)
Replying to: ljflx (Aug 12, 2006 7:28 pm) i was on a lexus site and if you dont remember. the previous body style of the lexus ls was released on october 12th so look for the new ls 460 to come on that day or right around that time Replies to this message: nvbanker (Aug 14, 2006 6:07 pm) nexuslexus (Aug 14, 2006 6:41 pm)
#2343 of 3321 Re: I THINK I HAVE A RELEASE DATE [123itsdee] by nvbanker Aug 14, 2006 (6:07 pm)
Replying to: 123itsdee (Aug 14, 2006 5:59 pm) Not sure you can draw that conclusion logically. There is no commitment on the part of Lexus to introduce all model changes on Oct 12 each time. Frankly, I'd be very surprised if they were quite that focused on precision as far as introductions. For what purpose would they do that? I don't think you have a date. Replies to this message: nexuslexus (Aug 14, 2006 6:41 pm)

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