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#61 of 203 Re: New Design for BMW M3 [baserunner] by rcooper1 Mar 16, 2006 (7:15 am)
Replying to: baserunner (Feb 13, 2006 8:58 am) Having seen the factory supplied material for the new M3 (Yes, it has been "Bangled"), I would jump at the $65K version on offer. It will only increase in value when the new one arrives.   The new model is larger, heavier and offers no adequate additional power. It appears aimed a a broader, less demanding buyer who intends to use it as a daily drive With the kids!   The top BMW privateer race team in the US is already agonizing about how one goes about making this into a race car, or even looking like one. The 06 M3, as you likely know, is a faintly veiled, street legal race machine right off the dealer's floor. This coming model appears to be the first misstep BMW has ever made in the development of this modern classic. Breaks my heart.   At the same time, of course, there is rumor of a new M version Z Coupe (picture the Z3 M Coupe, which was the highest performance road BMW ever offered to the public, though its appearance, "the bread truck", bothered some). At 340 BHP and the C-pillar stiffness to the chassis, nothing could touch it. No word on the cost of this hypothetical as yet, though. Besides, if $65K seems too steep, go test a Porsche of comparable performance (at roughly $110K) and the M3 will just jump into your car park!
#62 of 203 M3 by lopz Mar 25, 2006 (1:38 pm)
No MT, no M3
#63 of 203 SMG is good for me by jmaroun Mar 31, 2006 (11:11 pm)
Am I the only one out there brave enough to admit..I can't drive stick shift? I tried several times and found the whole clutch concept retarded. I mean..we should be past this primitive clutch thing by now.   I welcome the SMG with wide open thumbs! Replies to this message: shanti1 (Apr 02, 2006 8:09 pm) jmaroun (Apr 04, 2006 5:34 pm)
#64 of 203 Re: manual transmission / clutch [jmaroun] by shanti1 Apr 02, 2006 (8:09 pm)
Replying to: jmaroun (Mar 31, 2006 11:11 pm) >"I tried several times and found the whole clutch concept retarded. I mean..we should be past this primitive clutch thing"   Says who ...   Since you do not drive manual - you cannot pronounce yourself on this, nor could other drivers be interested whether MT appears to your limited experience as "retarded" or not. It is a connection with the car (and an understanding of how it works) that comes strictly from the driving experience, a connection with the road which is alien to you. You have not experienced or enjoyed what we are talking about. So it will be of all too little a value how someone like you finds the concept.   If you buy an M3 but you are not able to drive manual you buy it so you look cool inside it, but deep down you are not a sportscar driver. Buy a sedan if you are only able to enjoy automatic. I hope you realize it is far beyond your competence to comment on manual transmission. Replies to this message: jmaroun (Apr 04, 2006 5:34 pm)
#65 of 203 True that! by drfill Apr 02, 2006 (8:38 pm)
I know a lot of girls who roll in 'Vettes!      If I knew one who could drive stick......      But that's all pie in the sky.      I think BMW learned their lesson on the M5 (why do I feel like I'm repeating myself?).      DrFill
#66 of 203 Re: manual transmission / clutch [shanti1] by jmaroun Apr 04, 2006 (5:34 pm)
Replying to: shanti1 (Apr 02, 2006 8:09 pm) BMW engineers themselves have decided that SMG is not only better than manual transmission, but it is so superior that NOT ONLY put it in the M5, but they eliminated your beloved stick altogether. That is a Power statement by BMW, not me. They know better than I, and certainly YOU given your ridiculous assumptions, how best to connect with the car and they've concluded that SMG is better. Having worked with German engineers in Munich, I know very well that such decisions are based upon FACTS.   All formula one sports cars today use some form of SMG..and these are sports cars..so your statements are ridiculous and baseless.   Joseph San Diego
#67 of 203 hold up jmouron by dhamilton Apr 05, 2006 (8:02 pm)
If you like SMG then more power to you. Most enthusiasts that I know and read prefer 3 pedals as well as a lot of F1 drivers most notably M schumaker of Ferrari [excuse the probable misspelling of his name] would prefer a return to a traditional manual for the reasons stated by most manual fans here. A more connected experience with the car.  Also for your information,BMW has decided to bring a manual M5 starting soon due mostly from pressure coming from "enthusiasts" and the fact that most auto journalists bash SMG. So it seems that the 3 pedal fans have spoken..
#69 of 203 BMW has put the stick back in the M5 by drfill Apr 15, 2006 (6:19 pm)
And won't make the same mistake twice with the M3. Period!        Lesson learned: Don't be so bloody arrogant! Sell the people what they want! When you stop selling manuals, you lose 30% of your buyers.       DrFill

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