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#190 of 203 Random thought by fedlawman Feb 16, 2008 (8:56 am)
Seems to me the new BMW M3 is nothing more than a German Pontiac GTO. I can't say I like one any more than the other... Replies to this message: roadburner (Feb 16, 2008 8:03 pm)
#191 of 203 Re: Random thought [fedlawman] by roadburner Feb 16, 2008 (8:03 pm)
Replying to: fedlawman (Feb 16, 2008 8:56 am) Seems to me the new BMW M3 is nothing more than a German Pontiac GTO.   I wouldn't go quite that far, I tend to think of it as a replacement for the E28 M5 or E24 M6. The weight and dimensions are similar, aonly with 150 more horsepower. The new M3 is a nice GT or sports sedan, but it's just to massive to be an M3 in spirit. Having said all that, I still think I might buy that nice 2002 tii I was looking at awhile back; as the great Colin Chapman put it, "Simplify and add lightness!"
#192 of 203 Help! 2004 Stereo/Speakers by jjohnjohn Feb 24, 2008 (4:57 pm)
Hello, I have a 2004 M3 and having problems with my speakers/stereo. The music/sound tends to fade by itself randomly. The fade is subtle but noticeable, very annoying. Any ideas or solutions? Thanks!
#193 of 203 Just sawr the M3 at a local dealer in San Diego by jmaroun Mar 07, 2008 (7:23 pm)
After years of waiting, anticipating, discussing, considering...it arrives.   14 mpg $70k Sticker .. no thanks   It took me less than 5 minutes to conclude, Meh. The 335i looks cleaner and lighter. This M3 is what the M5 should be and the M5 is what the M6 should be. Actually, the M6 shouldn't be, IMO. A more aggressive 335i with slightly larger inline 6 + bi-turbos is what this M3 should have been. BMW should take example from 911TT and GTR rather than join the V8 bandwagon with Audi's RS4 and Merc's C63AMG.   To think I waisted so much time researching this car!!   Joseph San Diego blog: http://www.carspace.com/blogs/enthusiastsdilemma08 Replies to this message: nyccarguy (Mar 07, 2008 8:00 pm) roadburner (Mar 08, 2008 10:26 am) fedlawman (Mar 31, 2008 7:39 pm) and 1 more...
#194 of 203 Re: Just sawr the M3 at a local dealer in San Diego [jmaroun] by nyccarguy Mar 07, 2008 (8:00 pm)
Replying to: jmaroun (Mar 07, 2008 7:23 pm) 14 mpg The M3 is about performance, not fuel economy. In a perfect world, us car guys would be driving 150 mph cars that do 0 - 60 in the 4 second range that in turn get 50 mpg. We live & drive in the real world. The 14city/20highway numbers are the EPA's new rating system which is supposed to reflect real world mileage numbers. After PROPER break in then at 5K & 10K intervals BMWs performance and mileage historically increase.   $70k Sticker .. no thanks I just "built my own" M3 on BMWUSA's website. The MSRP came out to $56,720. My M3 sedan's only options are heated front seats, power glass moonroof, & SIRIUS Radio (can't live without HOWARD).   I'm sure this M3 is a V8 in part because of competititon, but there is only so much they could wring out of the Inline 6. They wanted to keep it naturally aspirated, so the next progression is a high revving V8. The V8 is what makes the M3 special. If it were just a 335i with bigger wheels, a sharper suspension, and more power from the same Twin Turbo Inline 6 BMW couldn't justify the price jump.   The 335 is one amazing car. I think a lot of the world's problems would be solved if more cars have the N54 under the hood   Good luck with your car search. Replies to this message: roadburner (Mar 08, 2008 10:26 am) fedlawman (Mar 31, 2008 7:39 pm) roadburner (Apr 01, 2008 7:57 am)
#195 of 203 Re: Just sawr(sic) the M3 at a local dealer in San Diego [nyccarguy] by roadburner Mar 08, 2008 (10:26 am)
Replying to: nyccarguy (Mar 07, 2008 8:00 pm) I'm considering a M3 sedan for my family hack. With the DCG my wife can drive it and I can still hit the track with it from time to time. I'm guesstimating that my MSRP would be a tick over $60K as the lower base price of the sedan will partially offset the cost of the DCG. The thing is, I consider the latest M3 to be much closer in spirit to the original E28 M5. The E90 is 9 inches shorter and 180 lbs. heavier than the E28 and needless to say, the modern car is much faster- it reaches 60 and the end of the 1/4 mile 2 seconds sooner. It also pulls .95g on the skidpad as opposed to the .83g the E28 can manage. And the new M3 is also a bargain compared to the original M5. Adjust the M5's 1988 MSRP of $48470 for inflation and the 2008 number is $88336. And while I realize that reading several magazine articles and perusing the Monroney sticker will usually tell you all you need to know abou a car, I'm not going to express my final opinion on the new M3 until I actually drive one. Having said all that, I'd love to see BMW build something with the character of the original E30 M3- edgy, responsive, and covered with a thin veneer of civility. Sad to say, the market would probably be very limited since today's typical BMW buyer thinks trailing throttle oversteer is a band that used to open for Kansas- and even M Car buyers wet their pants at the thought of taking their car to a high speed driving event(shudder). Those individuals should be forced to drive Lexus LS sedans for the rest of their miserable lives. Replies to this message: fedlawman (Mar 31, 2008 7:39 pm) roadburner (Apr 01, 2008 7:57 am)

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