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Replying to: jmaroun (Jun 26, 2006 10:54 pm)  I'm not in the car business at all. I thought I answered your question constructively and honestly. My customer that is buying the Shelby GT500 Mustang certainly isn't buying it from the plumbing supply house I work at. He is buying it from a Ford dealership. I do not advocate buying ANY car for one cent over MSRP (or even at MSRP). If you want a new M3 and have to be the first on the block to have it, then go and pay money to get on a waiting list. If you can be patient and wait (maybe extend the lease on your 330i). Maybe that sounds like your best option since you sound like you want to keep the car for a long time. I LOVE BMWs (and hope to own at least one further down the road). The M3 is a high performance sports car with a free revving engine and tightly wound suspension. The new V8 will be a derivitave of the current E60 M5's V10 and may have some teething problems. The current E46 M3s had engine problems (I can't recall exactly what) during their first year of production. As for buying vs. leasing, since BMW will sell every single one of these with no problem don't expect any lease support in the form of a low lease rate (money factor) or pumped up residual value. A loan payment might be the same as a lease payment. Example: A $50,XXX dollar 530i will probably have a much lower lease payment than an M3 with a similar sticker price given the mileage allotment & term of lease are the same (say 3 years 15,000 miles per year). |
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If I were you, I'd wait until the second model year. Those teething problems in the aforementioned post were due to the semi dry-sump oiling system which utilized one conventional, high capacity oil pump and a scavenger pump which recycled the oil back onto the internals of the engine. This new M3 won't have that system on it. I can't remember off hand, but I'm sure this will be a single pump/reservoir dry sump system. There were also some sealing problems with a lot of the gaskets from the 2001 models. BMW made sure to address this in the following model years, so I'm sure they've shaken down this new engine thoroughly. I'd wait until some idiot leases one for his wet-nosed son's birthday gift. Let others find the problems for you. I say there's no better way to shake the bugs out of a new car than to put in the hands of a teenager.  I'm going to take one on a "tour of the city," finding faults and what not. Then some acceleration and speed runs at the airport. After all that, I may sign up for a driving course. I've raced all over and halved 6 figure cars on 2 continents, but I've never been to a BMW driving school. I'm looking forward to hearing your experiences if you decide to go forward with it.
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Replying to: ultimatedriver (Jun 27, 2006 9:12 pm) Regarding the picture #103, posted by autoboy; I'm not sure where that came from however I certainly hope the new M3 will look better than that. Silver in my opinion has been Played Out on most 3series. I'll be shooting for something a bit more stand out'ish. Maybe yellow or Sky Blue. nyccarguy and utlimatedriver: Your points are well taken on the BMW teething problem. I will be cautious. ultimate: I will Surely appreciate your feedback on the new M3. How do you get to drive these new cars anyway?? I'll be signing up to the BMW driving school soon and will post my experiences. For the moment, I'm enjoying my 330i. One of the most pleasing aesthetic thing about this car is the rims that came with the sports package. They fit the car well! I also enjoy aggressively taking a curve or two when i get the chance. Mostly, I'm just enjoying the feel of the ride. The low end torque is a bit disappointing. The M3 can solve that problem and emphasize on the road feel I'm sure. I'm hoping to get more inputs and comments. Perhaps it's too early. Thanks for both inputs! Joseph San Diego |
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| I've been on 2 waiting lists for high demand vehicles, the Yamaha R1 when it first came out and no one not on a waiting list could buy one for several months, and the E46 M3 SMG which was wait listed for at least 6 months, except for those dealers who sold well over MSRP. In both cases, I paid $1K down and contracted for MSRP, and for the 1st one avaialble that met me specs (options and color). Both times I changed my mind, the R1 I sold my spot to a friend for the same $1K, the second I decided I needed a sedan with my growing son so the $1K was applied towards a 330i Sport. | |
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There is finally a glimmer of hope for the very few rarebirds waiting for a M3 wagon ( I am among one of those rarebirds and hopefully not the only one). link title
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Jun 18, 2006 7:43 pm) |
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 11, 2006 11:02 am) I've seen the pics in your link scattered here and there on various websites over the past 6 months. That leads me to believe, or I should say hope, that the M3 will look significantly different. There's something inharmonious about all of the pics I've seen and I don't like it. I don't know about everyone else, but I'm hoping for a much cooler looking car than what has been revealed (or imagined) thus far. It's hard to get specific about subjective things, but we all know beauty when we see it. Please BMW, don't F this up as you've done with the 5 series.  Joseph San Diego
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Replying to: jmaroun (Jul 11, 2006 7:49 pm) Only time will tell. |
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Replying to: jmaroun (Jul 11, 2006 7:49 pm)   The designers at toyota seem to agree with me especially since they built the Scion tC(2007 has a msrp of $15k) so similar to it?  Sure its missing the angels eye and signaling eyebrow but its nothing a few mods wont fix. ON the subject matter, The m3 is kinda homely IMO. The old3 and the 19893 were my favorite. I guess I like every other generation of 3. This look IMO is revolunitary for a 5. For once it isn't similar to the Bangle Butt 7 (unlike the new 3. The new m3 seems to share the 6 & 7s rear) The freshened x5 is also handsome  .
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if you guys want to get a better look at what the ne m3 looks like, go to www.ask.com and select images and type in 2008 m3 and it brings up two photos of the new m3. i'm sure you have all heard about the new 328i and 335i coupes........but bmw just told us that they will put the 300 hp twin turbo in the sedan
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