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2007 BMW M3 (E92)

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Re: Why not keep the V6? [boomn29] by kernick
Jan 07, 2005 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: boomn29 (Dec 23, 2004 1:16 pm)

you: Why can't they just up the displacement a little? If they went up to say 3.4l, they could get about 355hp probably out of it!
 
me: Or why can't they keep the engine the same displacement as it is now, and apply any technology enhancements to getting better mpg?
 
I guess I'll answer that by saying that the hp-race going on now is what consumers care about, over any mpg-race that others hope for.
 
If BMW wants to stay in the hp-race then of course they need to address the competition. And many people who test drive a vehicle do not care what the hp is, if they don't feel the low-end torque, from a stop.
 
I would guess the C-6 Corvette would be a direct competitor. Does BMW want to keep up? The C-6 Z-06 will launch next year with 500hp and close to that in torque. For the same money, most people are going to buy a Vette; unless you really want a back seat. Or that person might buy a 400-hp GTO, for less $.
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I'll chime in here.. by kyfdx HOST
Jan 07, 2005 (10:16 am)
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I don't think too many potential M3 buyers will be shopping a GTO.. A Vette or an Audi S4 maybe.. Not that the cars aren't basically similar (2+2 coupes with lots of horsepower).
 
For the same reasons that Lexus LS400 buyers weren't shopping Impala SS.. sort of..
 
Too far apart in price..
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Re: I'll chime in here.. [kyfdx] by kernick
Jan 07, 2005 (5:15 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 07, 2005 10:16 am)

you: I don't think too many potential M3 buyers will be shopping a GTO..
 
me: you're probably right, but the GTO is a viable alternative. If you like to pay $20K extra for the marque, and a different sort of performance (some pluses and some minuses). $20K can buy a lot of vacations to Hawaii though for instance.
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by kyfdx HOST
Jan 08, 2005 (1:49 pm)
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Most people (meaning..not like me) that can afford $55K-$60K for an M3, don't have much trouble paying for that Hawaiian vacation..
 
It IS a different sort of performance.. More pluses than minuses IMO... but, even disregarding that.. different enough that it won't be cross-shopped..
 
I have a co-worker that has an '04 GTO... To me, it looks like a stretched Cavalier.. The '05 looks marginally better.. But, really, it is mostly horsepower... It handles like a pig on the stock all-season tires..
 
The Vette, I could see... But, then you have the 2-seat thing..
 
And... no one spends over $30K on any car.. and doesn't at least consider the brand image.. Nothing wrong with that, either..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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radox5 by nyccarguy
Jan 09, 2005 (2:28 pm)
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If you're that afraid of the new model, then lease an '05 M3 for 3 years. By the time your lease is up, the new V8 powered M3 will be out for about a year and should have all of the bugs worked out. The V8 id bound to have some problems like the current S54 motor did when it was introduced in 2001.
 
andys120: I completely agree with you. I'd love to be "stuck" with an E46 M3:)
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Personally by nyccarguy
Jan 09, 2005 (2:37 pm)
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I love the current E46 M3 and would love to snatch up a leftover '06 model when the new E90 M3 comes out. As long as it has a 6-speed manual, black interior, and sunroof, I'll be happy!
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What is the difference for the M4? by boomn29
Jan 10, 2005 (8:42 am)
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My new Road and Track just got here. It's got a mention of an upcoming M4 - a coupe with around 385hp.
 
I've seen mention of the M3/M4 -> where they mention them as maybe being the same car, so didn't know. I know the M5 will be the larger V10 sedan. I know the M6 is coming out, which will be a much larger coupe.
 
So, where would the M4 fit?
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There is no M4 by kyfdx HOST
Jan 10, 2005 (8:59 am)
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BMW toyed with having the sedans as 3-series and the coupes as 4-series..
 
They dropped that idea, but much of the media seems to keep hanging on to it..
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Buying a used M3 by radox5
Jan 22, 2005 (1:00 pm)
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Hi guys,
I'm thinking about buying a 2002 or 2003 BMW M3 convertible. I found one for sale that is 2002 with 12000 miles garage kept, SMG, 19 inch wheels, Navigation system, basicaly the car has everything that you can imagin. Also the car has BMW warrany until May 2006, and maintanence warrant until May 2005. The owner is asking $45000. I have few question for you guys;
1) Is the car worth it $45000?
2) Before I decide to buy this car should I take this car to a dealer for inspection?
3) Can I extend the warranty to 100k?
4) What should I look for when I go for a test drive?
 
Please let me know what you guys think.
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by boomn29
Jan 28, 2005 (9:46 pm)
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How about - off topic. 45k; no.

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