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Toyota Corolla, Sedan
#731 of 3104 Re: backy [kdhspyder]
Mar 05, 2007 (7:59 pm)
Toyota made a public pronouncement last year significant enough that I still remember it: all Toyotas will have VSC by 2009. At the time, I took it to mean that VSC would be standard by then, in which case making it standard across the line for the '09 Corolla would make a lot of sense. But now I am wondering if maybe they just meant it would be at least optional for all '09 Toyotas?
Right now, I don't think it is even optional for the Yaris. But a lot can change in 2 years. Plus, NHTSA is probably going to make it mandatory for all 2011 or 2012 vehicles, right?
And gas is already $3/gallon in my neck of the woods, now holding steady the last 4 or 5 days. But Corollas are still flying off the lots around here, they can't keep them in stock.
#732 of 3104 Re: backy [nippononly]
Mar 05, 2007 (8:19 pm)
The Camry would get VSC standard first, I'd think. If the Corolla gets it for '08, I'll bet Camry does too. There was a review of the Yaris that stated the car really needs VSC--so let's hope Toyota holds to their promise.
Once a car has ABS, how much more does it cost to add VSC anyway??
#733 of 3104 Re: backy [backy]
Mar 06, 2007 (7:55 am)
In the other markets where Yaris is sold, it already has VSC (and optional HIDs, and ABS and 6 airbags, and keyless start, and...oh never mind). So it's not a problem of design, it's one of cost. They could put it in the Yaris tomorrow, but then they might have to raise the price of the car $300 - oooohhh!! Americans always get jipped in equipment content in their small cars.
#734 of 3104 Re: backy [nippononly]
Mar 06, 2007 (8:10 am)
That's because small cars like the Yaris are pegged in the U.S. as "cheap econoboxes." People expect a low price and usually don't expect much in the way of features. They'll even put up with a car w/o side airbags or ABS or a seat height adjuster! But there's a shift happening with cars in the Corolla's class, as people get into saving gas and realize that a car of that class can meet 95% or even 100% of their needs, just as it does for people in other countries. So we're seeing upscale features moving into the compact space, and you can now get a pretty luxurious compact car. I hope the '08 Corolla continues that trend, so that people who want a small, fuel-efficient car don't have to sacrifice safety and convenience features.
Mar 06, 2007 (8:56 am)
Take that one step further and make a wagon version of the same well equipped small car and suddenly it has plenty of room and fits an even greater percentage of peoples needs.
A Corolla wagon has more space than the Matrix and gets Corolla efficiency. Unfortunately if they bring such a vehicle here they can't say "all the utility of an SUV without the guzzling" because it would hurt sales of more profitable SUVs.
#736 of 3104 Re: - [dudleyr] Well Equipped Efficient Small Wagons
Mar 06, 2007 (9:58 am)
Who would want to hurt sales?
#737 of 3104 Re: - [dudleyr] Well Equipped Efficient Small Wagons [la4mead]
Mar 06, 2007 (10:18 am)
Toyota used to sell Corolla wagons here. They didn't sell very well, even in the days before the huge popularity of SUVs. If Toyota thought a Corolla wagon--ANY wagon for that matter, they used to sell Camry wagons also--would sell in any volume in the U.S., they'd bring it here. Wagons just don't sell these days. How many wagons are available in the U.S. right now from non-luxury marques? Not many.
#738 of 3104 2008 Corolla
Mar 06, 2007 (4:22 pm)
Does anyone have any information as to when the 2008 Corolla will go on sale in the US?
#739 of 3104 Re: 2008 Corolla [enaj]
Mar 06, 2007 (5:37 pm)
At the usual time. The 2008 Corolla is the same as a 2007 Corolla. The new design will be a 2009 model, so you have a very long wait.
Same for the new Mazda3. It will be a 2009 model also.
#740 of 3104 Re: 2008 Corolla [jaxs1]
Mar 06, 2007 (7:01 pm)
How are you so sure the new Corolla will be an '09 model? I highly doubt that, as the current one debuted as an '03 in March of 2002.