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#380 of 3103 Gamp: I agree with you. by sonatabean

Jun 13, 2006 (12:14 pm)

Actually, that is a *VERY* good question in light of the major diesel players in the USA having significant quality issues.
 
It used to be cars like VW and Mercedes-Benz (the only current offerings in diesel cars in the USA) on top of all Consumer Reports, Consumer Research, Edmunds, and other "quality oriented" lists. And, of course, both German builders offered the best diesels made: Germans were known for their phenomenal diesel engines.
 
It seems that, for both these German manufacturers, the customer satisfaction and quality 3-5 years out is frankly NOT what it was ten years ago: I would buy the Toyota diesel before the VW diesel - especially so after knowing three people who have had VW diesels built and bought since model year 2000.
 
In all three cases (two Jettas, one Passat), the owners essentially said the VWs were stylish, nicely-handling, overpriced bits of automotive feces. The current consumer ratings back those claims.
 
Given the VWs are expensive at the high twenty-thousand US dollar mark (I'm leaving the Mercedes diesel offerings out as the rock-bottom price is $36,000 US dollars; that's entry-level luxury pricing), a Corolla diesel DOES make good sense.
 
BUT - when does "making sense" every really seem to drive decisions?!

#381 of 3103 Re: New engine and trasnmision [gampa] by kdhspyder

Jun 14, 2006 (8:00 am)

Replying to: gampa (Jun 13, 2006 6:19 am)
A diesel Corolla, Camry, Tacoma, Tundra are great solutions. Only diesels can't be sold at present in 5 of the most populous states here, the CARB states. Thus no major manufacturer is going to have a product that can't be sold in CA, NJ, NY, CT, MA, RI, VT, NH, ME.
 
Now for model year 2008 and later this will change.

#382 of 3103 Re: New engine and trasnmision [kdhspyder] by sonatabean

Jun 15, 2006 (8:59 am)

Replying to: kdhspyder (Jun 14, 2006 8:00 am)
KDH -
 
It is currently planned to change in NY in 2007.
 
As I understand it, NY State will mandate that ALL diesel sold will be low-sulphur, which means it can also run thru a catalyzed exhaust system.
 
Which is actually cool.
 
Because then, in NY (which is where I live), I can have a diesel.
 
What I am ultimately interested to see is a hybrid syngergy drive diesel. Eliminate diesel sluggishness, up the milage yet even more.
 
THAT would be cool!

#383 of 3103 so by nippononly

Jun 19, 2006 (10:47 pm)

who saw this?
 
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060619/FREE/60619005/1041/T- OC01ARCHIVE
 
an Autoweek article today confirms the Corolla's engine will remain 1.8 liters, and incorporate dual VVT-i next time around (intake and exhaust), which will be good for emissions and probably boost power a bit too. I liked the part where Toyota said they expect a 5% increase in fuel efficiency over the current engine.
 
If they could get me a Corolla that made 34/43 with the stick, and perhaps had a little more power and nicer interior to boot, I would be sold. The only question then is whether to get the sedan or the hatchback (Matrix). I hope they continue the Matrix line, and I am afraid they won't because of marketing games with the Scion brand.

#384 of 3103 Data dumps by sonatabean

Jun 20, 2006 (5:33 am)

Nippon - I dunno if you noted this, above "Hellos Partners!!!! I wae searching a while, I found in toyoya nation forum, Toyoya is changing from 1:8 vvti to 2.0 vvti increasing the power between 135 to 150 Hp in normal production. And the automatic transmision is 5 speed triptonic. Maybe de XRS comes with 190 HP."
 
Conflicts with the post above of yours. I did check your article, though: it cites a Toyota Motors guy as the source
 
Fast, do you have a source for your post?
 
I'm suspicious, Fast, that your post may be addressing an XRS or an XRS-like vehicle.

#385 of 3103 sonatabean by nippononly

Jun 20, 2006 (11:35 am)

I think you have answered your own question there: the 2.0, if there is to be one, is for an XRS model. If that's true, I am intrigued that Toyota will continue to offer an XRS after the model turnover.
 
I also hope that UNLIKE this time, they make that 2.0 the base engine for the Matrix - with its higher profile and 300 extra pounds, the Matrix shouldn't be using the same engine as the Corolla sedan. It becomes a bit of a slug (a LOT of a slug in AWD form).

#386 of 3103 Re: sonatabean [nippononly] by sonatabean

Jun 20, 2006 (12:30 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Jun 20, 2006 11:35 am)
I also hope that UNLIKE this time, they make that 2.0 the base engine for the Matrix - with its higher profile and 300 extra pounds, the Matrix shouldn't be using the same engine as the Corolla sedan. It becomes a bit of a slug (a LOT of a slug in AWD form).
 
I have friends in Kansas City who have TWO Matrices (that really is the plural). They say the 5-speed is zippy. Or is that just the cumulative difference between (1) FWD vs. AWD and (2) stick vs. auto?

#387 of 3103 the current AWD by nippononly

Jun 20, 2006 (2:42 pm)

strains to maintain speed on any sort of highway grade, and in town Geo Metros will be impatiently going around you as you pull away from lights.
 
Now, auto vs stick does make a lot of difference in this model, yes. I have driven both, owned one. The "I simply REFUSE to downshift" 4-speed HAS TO GO for the next gen. With a 5-speed auto it would be more responsive even if the power is unchanged, which I am sure will not be the case.
 
Problem is, they need to boost power a bit but stay ahead of mpg ratings of the RAV4, in my view of things. Current model (FWD) is very decent at 30/36 with the stick, I think. I wouldn't want to see more than a 10% decline from that figure, even if they used a 2.0 for the base engine.

#388 of 3103 Hello Sonata this is mitriplew.com rumors by fastandstyle

Jun 20, 2006 (4:56 pm)

Mas y mas Rumores del Corolla 2008
Post: 02/05/2006 08:03:03 pm, Categorías: Sedan, Autor: Gabriel R.
Según fuertes rumores Toyota estaría eliminando los motores de 1.8L VVTI para cambiarlo por motores de 2.0L VVTI, tendrá entre 135HP y 150HP, Transmisión Tiptronic de 5 velocidades, y con consumos de gasolina por el orden de 36 a 38 MPG todo esto en modelos corolla.
Accorddin with heavy rumors, Toyota will elimiinate 1.8L vvti engines to upgrade to 2.0 L VVTI with 135-150 HP

#389 of 3103 Rumor versus Verified by sonatabean

Jun 20, 2006 (8:14 pm)

Fast,
 
That rumor comes via post.
 
I think the AutoWeek article (http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060619/FREE/60619005/1041/- T- OC01ARCHIVE) is probably accurate.
 
Especially with quotes direct from Toyota.
 
Sorry there, but the 2.0 is either for XRS or similar models -OR- the poster authoring the article is just making a guess.
 
My bet is on the info from AutoWeek.
 
UNLESS . . . you happen to have engine OPTIONS available, which I don't expect in North America (cuz we always get the most boring models on the mistaken assumption 'Murkins equate "good milage" and "boring" as a REQUIREMENT for an economy-class car).

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