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Re: This discussion continues to try to put a square peg into a round hole [terceltom] by backy
Apr 08, 2009 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: terceltom (Apr 08, 2009 12:56 pm)

You insinuate that most Americans don't like our small cars to drive and steer easy...
 
No. I suggest that a large number of Americans, if not a majority, like to have a higher degree of steering feel than what the 2009 Corolla provides.
 
Driving "easy" is different from driving "numb". I don't think we need to go back to manual steering to get a steering feel that is "easy" enough for folks like you and has enough precision and control for people who like that quality in a car. Other manufacturers have found combination to be possible. Toyota is fully capable of doing it too, if not on the entire Corolla lineup then maybe on just the sport-oriented XRS as I suggested.
 
My sense of adventure doesn't include a car that wanders around the road and requires a great deal of attention to keep pointed straight on a straight road, as some have expressed here. That isn't "easy" driving for me. I guess your definition of "easy" and my definition are different.
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Re: This discussion continues to try to put a square peg into a round hole [backy] by lls57
Apr 08, 2009 (2:02 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Apr 08, 2009 1:12 pm)

I have had my 09 Corolla since Feb 08, with over 15,000 miles on it, including a 2,000+ mile vacation. I never feel like it wanders around the road, and it doesn't require a great deal of attention to keep pointed straight. I am one of those people that just wants a car that gets me around town. Until I started reading posts here, I never knew that the steering was a "problem" for some people.
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Re: This discussion continues to try to put a square peg into a round hole [backy] by terceltom
Apr 08, 2009 (2:58 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Apr 08, 2009 1:12 pm)

"No. I suggest that a large number of Americans, if not a majority, like to have a higher degree of steering feel than what the 2009 Corolla provides".
 
"My sense of adventure doesn't include a car that wanders around the road and requires a great deal of attention to keep pointed straight on a straight road, as some have expressed here".
 
I'm going to assume that both of the above two statements were based on other peoples oppinions because a 2009 Corolla is not in your current inventory of cars, correct?
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Re: This discussion continues to try to put a square peg into a round hole [terceltom] by backy
Apr 08, 2009 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: terceltom (Apr 08, 2009 2:58 pm)

They are based on comments posted here by people who own or have driven the 2009 Corolla (note my words, "...as some have expressed here"), as well as on my own experience driving the 2009 Corolla.
 
Actually, when I drove the car I didn't notice anything I would call a "problem" with the steering. It wasn't precise like some other small cars, and I would prefer more steering feel, but it didn't wander all over the road either. But I don't want to summarily dismiss the opinions of those Corolla owners who think there's a problem with the steering. It could just be a reaction to how the car handles vs. what they are used to, or it could be a defect in some number of cars.
 
I think the 2009 Corolla is a nice little car in many ways, but not a car I care to own. With a few tweaks, I'd consider it though.
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Re: This discussion continues to try to put a square peg into a round hole [backy] by thegraduate
Apr 08, 2009 (6:15 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Apr 08, 2009 1:12 pm)

Driving "easy" is different from driving "numb".
 
VERY true. Nissan, for awhile, has always had steering that was too light for my personal tastes, but it is at least communicative. You can have overboosted steering that is communicative (like in the last older Nissan I drove) and you can have heavily weighted steering that offers little in the way of feel (Pontiac comes to mind here).
 
By "easy" I assume we're all referring to the physical effort it takes to move the wheel? I am. Just making sure we're on the same page.
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Help Shut Down America by 87silver
Apr 08, 2009 (6:22 pm)
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Buy a Toyota. The USA has seen its days.
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Re: Help Shut Down America [87silver] by thegraduate
Apr 08, 2009 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: 87silver (Apr 08, 2009 6:22 pm)

Don't feed the troll, guys.
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Re: This discussion continues to try to put a square peg into a round hole [lls57] by mnf
Apr 08, 2009 (7:54 pm)
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Replying to: lls57 (Apr 08, 2009 2:02 pm)

Same here with 12,800 miles use one handed driving most of the time no issues with my corolla. This after coming off a 2006 Honda CRV, 2004 Subaru, 2000 Honda Accord, 1998 Honda Civic and when she will let me my wifes 2000 Lexus RX 300.
 
MNF
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Re: This discussion continues to try to put a square peg into a round hole [mnf] by terceltom
Apr 09, 2009 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: mnf (Apr 08, 2009 7:54 pm)

Thanks for your post. It seems like those of us that actually own a 2009 Corolla like and accept the new EPS while a large percentage of the negativity is coming from non-owners.
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Re: This discussion continues to try to put a square peg into a round hole [terceltom] by thegraduate
Apr 09, 2009 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: terceltom (Apr 09, 2009 6:40 am)

a large percentage of the negativity is coming from non-owners.
 
Sure is. Those that have driven it and don't like the way this particular EPS system and suspension tuning is set up, probably wouldn't spend close to 20 grand on it. Just because the negative opinions aren't from owners don't mean they aren't valid.
 

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