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Replying to: nippononly (Aug 25, 2008 11:43 am) I waited for the 2009 Corollas to come out before making my decision. I was hoping that Toyota would finally fix the awkward driver's seating position from the 2003-2008 models, and they did, but they also introduced some new issues. Anyway, I gave both cars a good look and I ended up going with the 2008 Civic. In the beginning I also thought the Civic's dash display seemed weird, but now that I'm used to it I like it quite a bit. However, the road noise is definitely an issue. I think that quieter tires might help. There's a separate discussion entitled "08 Civic vs 09 Corolla" that has more details, here. |
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| I've owned more Hondas then Toyotas...both are great cars. I traded my 99 Accord for the Corolla and have no regrets. I wanted to buy the Civic, but the issue of road noise and the Starship Enterprise looking dash, I just couldn't get myself to purchase the Civic. I'm getting older and enjoy a quiet ride. Hopefully Honda one day will resolve the issue of road noise and win me back. | |
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Coupon given to me when I purchased the car. First Free Oil, Filter Change and Car Wash. My receipt says 5W30 was used when 5W20 is the oil weight stating in my manual that should only be used. It also states that only Toyota oil should be used, when my receipt says Mobil oil. After getting my receipt I immediately go to the service manager when he tells me that Mobil 5W20 was used. He tells me that all receipts say 5W30. How do I know this? Is he telling me the truth? Why was Mobil oil used when my manual says use only Toyota oil? He tells me they only use Mobil oil. Can I trust this dealer that they even did an oil and filter change? I don't know I'm not allowed to see the mechanic working on my car. Then I go outside to see the car and it was hit with a hose, all wet. This is the free car wash? The car was filthy. Give me a break. They want to charge me $30.00 just to rotate my tires. No balancing. I buy tires just about any place today (BJ's, the last 3 times I needed tires) they rotate and balance my tires free anytime I want. The service consultant tells me that they would do the same if I bought my tires there. Not only did I buy the tires there I bought the whole car! Last service I will ever have here. Let's see what Toyota says after they receive my complaint.
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Replying to: denvecsr (Aug 27, 2008 6:08 am) Every dealer uses bulk oil, whatever they can get for a cheap rate. None of them are using "Toyota oil". However, if they put 5/30 on the paperwork then they probably put 5/30 oil in the car. This won't be awful for the engine, but will reduce fuel economy slightly. Next time, make sure they put in 5/20, but there's no need to change it early. By the way, you didn't buy your tires from them, even though you bought the car from them. I know that seems confusing, but they did not sell you retail tires, they sold you a car that happened to have tires on it, ones that were installed at the factory in Canada or California.
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Replying to: nippononly (Aug 27, 2008 7:12 am) I'm sorry to disagree with you but I live in a large city in Northeast PA. The medium size Toyota dealership I go to uses Toyota synthetic 5-20 oil directly out of the red plastic Toyota bottle, no bulk for this weight of oil The dealership has a large observation window where you can plainly watch the mechanics working. Personally, if it was my new car I would demand that they drain and refill the oil to prove to me that it is indeed 5-20 and not 5-30.
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Replying to: denvecsr (Aug 27, 2008 6:08 am) The tire place that rotates mine charges a one time fee of $25, then they rotate them for life for free - just go to a good tire shop. |
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Replying to: denvecsr (Aug 27, 2008 6:08 am) There is no such thing as 'Toyota oil'. Toyota doesn't make oil, it makes vehicles. It may repackage engine oil made by various manufacturers. From the Corolla/Matrix manual it actually says...Specifications ==> Lubrication System Use Toyota approved "Toyota Genuine Motor Oil" or equivalent to satisfy the grade and viscosity shown below. paraphasing the rest.. 0W-20 provides optimal fuel economy.... 0W provides for easier starting in cold weather the 20 value indicates the oil viscosity at operating temperatures... quoting the last statement... "An oil with higher viscosity may be better suited if the vehicle is operated at high speeds, or under extreme load conditions." Now if you want to pick a fight that's certainly your perogative but don't expect much in the way of feel-good results. $30 is a normal fee for rotating the tires. Most tires places will rotate them for free because that's their 'hook' to get you to come back regularly to encourage you to buy your tires from them again.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Aug 27, 2008 10:04 am) |
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Replying to: denvecsr (Aug 27, 2008 1:19 pm) 1. Change the oil yourself. 2. Nowhere in this country that I know of is there a requirement that all service bays must be accessible or visible to the customer so they can watch their oil changed. 3. A car wash means something else to different people. Wash the car yourself. 4. RTFM. It is not the sales person or sales manager responsibility to know where the oil filter is on YOUR car. It's your responsibility. RTFM 5. Why stop now? Keep changing your oil if it makes you feel better. 6. It is ridiculous! go back to number one. 7. I can't imagine. When something does goes wrong and I'm not qualified to fix it, I search and ask for referrals for good mechanics, a/c repairmen, roofers, etc. And then I let them do their job without looking over their shoulder the whole time. If I don't trust them than why hire them? And last but not least; be happy you don't have cancer. Or you might and not even know it. Have you ever heard of the law of attraction or the power of intention? Look them up and chill out. You're a perfect candidate for a heart attack. 
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