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#2774 of 3104 Re: Great Stories! [nippononly]
Jun 19, 2008 (4:38 pm)
I just bought a Honda Civic. It did seem a bit strange that the saleman had to not only come along, but HAD to drive the vehicle off the lot. We pulled over down the street. I was driving when we came back, though (?). I had purchased 5 new Toyotas from Thanksgiving 2000, last one 20 months ago. I wanted to try something different, thinking maybe something could happen and this would be my last new car. They tossed me the keys the last couple time I was shopping at Toyota. I don't test drive unless I'm serious, I do like to look around showrooms and open doors and kick tires when the new model year comes out. Anyway, I believe I did say I was serious, and they tossed me the keys. That was the right move. RESPECT. I remember it enough to bring it up here after 20 months.
This time around I got the Edmunds number on the purchase, but the trade was another matter. I traded down, but my third fill-up was 40mpg, and that was the whole point.
I live just South of Seattle. There are a good number of new Civic 2 and 4 doors on the road. There are TONS of Corollas. The reviews are nuetral at best, yet they are selling like hotcakes. The redesign has used a couple of lines that make the thing look lower and wider, and the nose is better looking, too. I think the Corolla is better looking than the Camry. Lastly, I wanted to buy a Saturn Astra, to support GM. I checked them out a couple times after they arrived. Didn't drive, just looked on the lot. I was impressed, and the 100,000 mi warranty was super. I traded an 18-19 month old Sienna, and went with the best gas mileage I could find, and it was cheaper by a couple thousand, or more, than the Astra. I do feel kinda bad. It was a bad financial deal to start with, and I just couldn't make it worse. Anyway, what I wanted to point out is this; I have seen ONE Astra in a parking lot, a little dirty, and with a lincense plate, so it was purchased by someone. That's it!!! Not a single one driving down the road. Any road, anywhere!
Thanks for the stories!!
#2775 of 3104 Re: Great Stories! [bearcrkrd]
Jun 19, 2008 (7:14 pm)
Our store instituted a ride with every customer unless there is no room then we have to do a permission to ride slip. That lasted for about a week as it took to much time to copy the license, enter their information in the CRM, and then print the permit.
I always ask if they like for me to come along in case they have some questions. 99% of the time they tell me to come along.
#2776 of 3104 Re: Great Stories! [bearcrkrd]
Jun 20, 2008 (6:24 am)
Almost all of the times that I've test driven a car, the sales guy drives it off the lot. I don't understand the logic behind that.
#2777 of 3104 Re: Great Stories! [nedzel]
Jun 20, 2008 (6:33 am)
I was told by a salesman at Hyundai recently that they are liable if you hit a customer walking through the parking lot while they are weaving in and out between the cars as they are browsing, so they hand over the wheel to you once you are free of their property.
#2778 of 3104 Re: Great Stories! [bearcrkrd]
Jun 20, 2008 (6:38 am)
Well, I live near San Francisco, and I have to say that about half the cars on the road around here are Civics or Corollas. I have noticed the '09 Corolla in large numbers on our streets already, but I don't think they are outpacing Civics (the new style) that still have the dealer sticker instead of a license plate.
I, like you, went to check out Astras recently because I had looked forward to their arrival eagerly. The EPA rating on the stick is 24/32, which is only a little worse than Civic/Corolla, and the drive was pretty nice. I wasn't moved to trade early, but I will keep them in mind next time I do trade. Also similar to you, I have yet to see ANY Astras on the roads here. It will be a shame for GM if this thing totally flops, as it is a car worthy of consideration. I would argue that it is at least as good a deal, and with a nicer interior and better moves on the road, than the '09 Matrix.
#2779 of 3104 Re: Salesman Test-Driving[velde]
Jun 21, 2008 (2:37 am)
I think that's what I was told. Slipped my mind in all the excitement.
Just got back from a 790 mile road trip. Averaged 42 +, that's with 4 mountain passes, only one of which was on an Interstate. That's for my new home forums, I guess.
#2780 of 3104 Re: Great Stories! [nippononly]
Jun 21, 2008 (2:54 am)
I test drove a Civic LX and Vibe base w/2.4 and Auto. Had rented an xD for a day a couple of weeks prior. One gear short, but I think the Scion would have been the best $$ factoring in the Trade. Thought the Vibe was best looking. It was more $ and higher interest, but had more features, as the Civic LX has drum brakes and no tractiojn/stability control and a smaller engine with less torque. Civic felt better, so Astra probably would have, too. Wish GM well with it! I was all over my state today, and didn't see an Astra. Fair portion of the just under 800 miles were in the less populated areas, though.
#2781 of 3104 Re: New 09 Corolla LE owner [mackabee]
Jun 21, 2008 (5:32 am)
So how long would the wait be? Guess if you can?
#2782 of 3104 Wait and see...
Jun 21, 2008 (6:41 am)
"So how long would the wait be? Guess if you can?"
Your guess is as good as mine right now. We don't have any new Prius on the lot and there is/are none on our next month's allocation. I figure we might have seen the last of the 08's. The factory in Japan is gearing up (no pun intended) for the 09 which will have a slightly bigger power plant and Hybrid synergy drive system and is rumored to get 80mpg. Stay tuned. I'll post more when I get the scoop.
#2783 of 3104 Re: Wait and see... [mackabee]
Jun 21, 2008 (10:54 am)
None of that is accurate on the Prius. The new 09's which will be here in Sept/Oct will be exactly the same as the 08s. Zero difference. It's the 2010 MY Prius' which will have the changes. These should arrive next summer, i.e. 14 months from now.
They will have a more powerful powerplant but they will get nowhere near 80 mpg. There may be a 10-20% improvement over the 48 mpg of the current Gen2's which would bring the effective fuel economy to 55-60 mpg for most drivers.