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#2742 of 3104 Re: Steering [mackabee]
Jun 08, 2008 (8:46 am)
Why would the VSC settings affect the steering? I thought VSC works through the braking system, not steering. So, on the Corolla, VSC actually corrects the steering? Very interesting!
BTW, many cars today have electronic steering. But not all have a problem with steering feel. But it is actually fairly easy to correct, since it is electronic. I remember reading about a review of the then-new 2007 Elantra by the Australian press. They blasted it for lack of steering feel. Some Hyundai engineers flew in and made some adjustments that greatly improved the steering, and they supposedly applied those changes across the board. So if this kind of tweaking is possible on the Corolla, it may not be something a dealer can do, but may be relatively easy for Toyota to make an ongoing change (maybe even apply it retroactively through a TSB) if they get enough complaints about it.
#2743 of 3104 Re: Steering [backy]
Jun 08, 2008 (3:49 pm)
I don't think the Corolla links the EPS to the VSC/TRAC/ABS system but it does do so in the Lexus models and the Hybrid HH and TCH. In Toyota's alphabet soup it's called VDIM.
Essentially in an out-of-control situation the EPS limits the ability to turn in the wrong direction exacerbating a skid and assists in turning into the skid to minimize it. It can only be done on vehicles with EPS/VSC/ABS.
#2744 of 3104 Re: Steering [kdhspyder]
Jun 08, 2008 (9:32 pm)
Drive one with VSC that has not been pdi'd and one that has and you'll feel the difference. Try it on a RAV4 also, that one is more noticeable on a non pdi'd one. It may not have anything to do with the vsc, I just noticed the different feel on the steering on cars with vsc that had not been pdi'd.
#2745 of 3104 New 09 Corolla LE owner
Jun 10, 2008 (8:51 am)
Hi all; useful reading. thanks.
Just picked up an LE w/VSC, pref pack (bumper protector, mats) yest. Test drove it and Prius but decided to use diff for son's college tuition instead Dealer had 4 LEs with VSC, if I remember right, when I chose a red one.
Live in Central NJ and bought from a dealer here who reported they've stopped discounting since I bought (?); and that they are almost sold out of Corollas and 4 cyl. Camrys. I've had two Corollas before, a 2 dr 1980 and a five door hatch (1988 I think).
My impressions after 50 miles on backroads to and from work: I like the pick up--not great but better than I expected; see what people are saying about steering, but feels like it just takes getting used to as others said. Fit and finish seem OK--don't like the center dash (black) texture--while they wipe off, appearance changes w/any contact. Radio seems easy to use though sound on basic stereo (4 spkrs) not so good; better playing my iPod, which has been adjusted, tone wise.
I LOVE how quiet it is; I passed a 98 Camry onto my son, and maybe it's just age of car, but feels much quieter...Mileage, if the seven in one display is believed, was 32 on my first run to work.
Two beefs: why did Toyota get rid of the handy sunglasses holders (my Camry and 02 Sienna had them--2 on the Sienna--and I love them!).
Second, why/when did Toyota drop the visor extenders?
Third nitpick: the hook in the front right for a bag seems too low to the floor to do any good.
Fourth/final: 30 bucks for a spare key? Might be less, salesman said he'd get me one at cost? I know it's got the chip in it for the passive security sys...
So, overall, these nits aside, it seems very nice and comfortable; have to learn the 'pump' for the driver seat, but I have a bad back and the seat is nice so far (we'll see after I take a longer trip...). The quiet and gas mileage made the sale for me.
A neighbor just downgraded from an Explorer to a Subaru Impreza--nice looking, and AWD is nice, but 22 MPG? I'm with my 32plus.
#2746 of 3104 Re: New 09 Corolla LE owner [howardm1]
Jun 10, 2008 (9:01 am)
I'm curoius...how long is the wait for a Prius in central NJ?
#2747 of 3104 Re: New 09 Corolla LE owner [harvey44]
Jun 10, 2008 (8:00 pm)
Probably the same as the rest of the country. Automotive news reports there is a shortage of battery packs. Nissan and Ford are also feeling the pinch. You may get lucky and someone that has one on hold and decides not to buy could be yours. You just have to be at the right place at the right time. We had one available on Saturday and you should have seen the feeding frenzy amongst the sales people. I sold it twice in two days. Saturday a guy that had been calling me since February happened to call me and I told him to hurry as it could be sold before he got there. This guy is a monument to indecision. His wife was along and even she got pissed at him for wasting our time. He drove the Prius, Yaris, and Scion xD and finally his wife talked him into buying the Prius. By the time it was all said and done the prep guys had gone home and no one to clean and wash the car. So he decides they will pick it up Sunday or Monday. Sunday he calls me after I called him since he was supposed to call me at 10 am and never did. He tells me he's not getting the car after all. I said ,ok. I have a plan b.
That saturday while I was waiting for him to come in and the car to be inspected another customer asked me about the Prius.; I told him I was waiting for a customer to come by and buy it. After they came in and he saw what was going on I went and told him the car might be sold. He gave me his name and number and asked to be called if the deal fell through. I called him sunday and we met at the store at 12 noon. I went through the whole process with him also only to have the wife in Fl nix the deal. So I wasted 2 hours of my time on Sunday, 3 and a half on Saturday and have nothing to show for it.
#2748 of 3104 Re: New 09 Corolla LE owner [howardm1]
Jun 10, 2008 (8:10 pm)
Congrats on the new LE!
A couple of suggies; try adjusting the tone control on the radio to tailor the sound to your liking. Just push the "Tune" button and the bass, treble, balance, and fader adjustments come up. I've found the sound system to sound quite good. The JBL upgrade is even better.
Corolla never had sunglass holders.
The sun visor extenders were dropped on the Camry in 2002 .
The hook on the right side of the front is for ladies purses.
As far as the key is concerned, if you are getting the key with the remote features it will be more than 30 dollars. The non remote with the chip only key is more than 30 dollars as it has to be programmed to the car as the key with remote functions.
#2749 of 3104 Re: Corolla [mackabee]
Jun 11, 2008 (2:34 pm)
I just bought a Standard automatic for less than $16K, and I'm happy (it's still a Corolla, if not a bit utilitarian). The "True Market Price" in my area (Podunk, North Dakota) was only $100 off MSRP, so I trekked the 500 miles to Minneapolis and got $700 better. With the 0% financing promotion and a $500 College rebate (which offers no payments for 90 days and one year free roadside assistance), it was a no-brainer. The gas mileage is superb (about 38 MPG back on the highway, and I am *not* a gentle driver). But the "multi-information display" is awful...you should be able to see your gas mileage and the clock at the same time, geesh!
#2750 of 3104 Re: Corolla [caseydelia]
Jun 11, 2008 (7:40 pm)
Good for you! Congrats. I've yet to see a Standard model Corolla. Our regional distributors don't order very many of them. I think for our 5 state region I've seen less than 10 on the monthly TVO Toyota vehicle order.
#2751 of 3104 Rims from 08 and before vs 09
Jun 13, 2008 (4:45 pm)
I'm considering buying someone's last gens factory rim's for my 2009. Will they fit? Are they the same lug configuration and offset?