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Re: That Makes No Sense [sandman46]
by nippononly
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Apr 02, 2008 (10:23 am)
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Replying to: sandman46 (Apr 02, 2008 8:55 am)
Also...while most car mags note the mushy feel of the brakes in Toyotas, they go on to say something like "despite the mushiness, the car had a surprisingly short stopping distance, besting all the other cars in the comparo", LOL.
The feel of the pedal in Toyotas may suck, but it's usually Honda, believe it or not, with the worst stopping distances.
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- #2606 of 3074
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Re: That Makes No Sense [sandman46]
by windjammer
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Apr 02, 2008 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: sandman46 (Apr 02, 2008 8:55 am)
I doubt we'll be looking at the Corolla when we need to buy two cars within the next year. And people let you get away with answers like that? Sheesh!
Dumbest post I have seen on this forum He's a Salesmen Dude! Not a spokesperson or a engineer for Toyota
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- #2607 of 3074
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Re: That Makes No Sense [windjammer]
by mackabee
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Apr 02, 2008 (1:39 pm)
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Replying to: windjammer (Apr 02, 2008 11:11 am)
Being a salesman has nothing to do with it Dude! I own three Camrys right now and one before that was totalled. The brakes on most Toyotas are "mushy" but they do the job better than other brands. It is not a defect or problem. You just have to get used to them like everything else.
Mack 
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Duh
by sandman46
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Apr 02, 2008 (1:46 pm)
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I know he's a salesman dude! He usually has good product knowledge and was looking for something positive about Toyota brakes. He knows a lot and really looking for positive info before I put my kids in a car I wouldn't drive myself. I go by pedal feel dude, and all our recent cars have had better pedal feel with better stopping power...that's all I care about when I put my loved ones in a car.
Why on earth has Edmunds gotten so nasty lately...never was this way in the old days. But I guess the internet lets jerky folks say stuff that most won't say face to face. Unbelievable!
Guess it's definitely time to look else where for a nicer exchange of ideas.
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okay guys
by pat HOST
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Apr 02, 2008 (1:51 pm)
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Let's dispense with the personal comments. You don't have to like everything everyone posts, but there is no need to take anything or make anything personal.
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Re: That Makes No Sense [nippononly]
by mcdawgg
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Apr 02, 2008 (4:18 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 02, 2008 10:23 am)
Completely agree - it is not the feel, it is the actual stopping distance that counts.
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Re: For example... [kdhspyder]
by cz75
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Apr 03, 2008 (9:54 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Mar 14, 2008 4:45 am)
No reality check required - the Corolla XRS needs to lose $2000 on price when compared to a Civic Si. They aren't even in the same league. A loaded Mazda3 is more in line with what the Corolla has to offer and it should still be cheaper despite having more content. A Corolla XLE is also notably inferior in features to a Civic EX, yet costs more money for similar content (around $500) and still comes with rear drums and a non-independent rear suspension and less power and only a four speed auto, with the only advantage being optional traction and stability control.
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Re: That Makes No Sense [mcdawgg]
by cz75
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Apr 03, 2008 (9:55 pm)
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Apr 02, 2008 4:18 pm)
The latest issue of Car and Driver seems to indicate stopping distance is inferior too.
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Re: That Makes No Sense [nippononly]
by cz75
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Apr 03, 2008 (10:03 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 02, 2008 10:23 am)
Toyota usually does better with their brakes than Honda, except on the Corolla, which has for as long as I can remember had the worst, or nearly so, stopping distances in its class. One year, it was the had the worst brakes of any vehicle tested in Road & Track, worse even than most SUVs, but that had to be at least 5 years ago. You can usually blame Honda's poor braking on the tires offered.
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Re: Fuel Economy [mcdawgg]
by cz75
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Apr 03, 2008 (10:08 pm)
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Mar 14, 2008 4:21 pm)
And also what are the final drive ratios? You can't just look at torque.
Honda is ready with A-VTEC when Toyota comes out with Valvematic, but odds are good Honda will offer theirs first.
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