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Replying to: jaxs1 (Mar 14, 2008 11:50 am) |
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Mar 14, 2008 11:50 am) I recognize that it's personal but the Prius just fits better...and at 35,000 mi annually it's important. That's why I don't put that much consideration to the 'hard surface' arguments. I want content plus back/butt comfort.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Mar 14, 2008 3:05 pm) A corollary to the hard surfaces issue are controls that look and/or feel cheap. Again, that may not be an issue for you or others. But since smooth, rich-feeling controls, e.g. HVAC dials or buttons, are now the norm in this class, it too is not something I am willing to deal with. I want content plus back/butt comfort too. I have it in my current compact car, which was designed in the 1990s and built in 2003, and I don't see any reason not to expect it in my next car. |
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Replying to: backy (Mar 14, 2008 11:42 am) backy, you cant turn the versa and civic into one car to beat the corollas mpg numbers. the corolla beats the versa since they are tied in city and corolla beats it on hwy. the corolla is 2 mpg better than civic in city but only 1 less on hwy, so in my view that would favor the corolla. there is no such car in the class that ties the corolla in city (versa ) and beats the corolla on highway (civic) so, in backy's world, the corolla is not the leader in fuel efficiency. the fuel efficiency leader is: the VERVIC
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Replying to: roxy11 (Mar 14, 2008 3:28 pm)  If you look at the composite EPA ratings, assuming it's 30 for the Corolla 1.8 AT (do we really know yet?), then the Corolla edges out the Civic by 1 mpg there and some others such as Focus, Elantra, and Sentra by 2 mpg (and I noted that earlier). It gets dicier though when you say, as kdhspyder originally did, that the Corolla is the fuel economy champ because it gets 27 in the city and 35 on the highway. Then it depends on whether city or highway driving is more important to you. If you drive more on the highway than the city, then that would favor the Civic, and the converse would favor the Corolla. Fuel efficiency is clearly a strength of the Corolla, I don't think anyone disputes that. Does it have enough of an advantage there to outweigh its shortcomings? Everyone has to make his/her own decision on that one. |
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. And the best it could do is 2 mpg more than a tired old iron-block engine from one competitor, and 1 mpg better than the more powerful engine in the Civic. And that's the new Corolla's BEST feature What are the torque ratings? You cannot just look at horsepower. For now, the new Corolla has either class-leading fuel economy or maybe it is a draw. I say for now because the new Valvematic engine designs from Toyota are coming very soon. So even if the new Corolla just ties the other efficiency leaders, you can bet that in a few years Toyota can drop one of these new engines in and either beat or tie any other manufacturers' newest models. Just a thought...
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Mar 14, 2008 4:21 pm) Another thought... Toyota had six years to develop the new 1.8L engine that went into the 2009 Corolla. But, what is its fuel economy compared to that of the 2003-8 Corolla? Just 1 mpg better in the city, and the same on the highway. There's a little more weight on the 2009 Corolla vs. 2008, but... 1 mpg in six years? Then there's the issue of cost. Maybe the Valvematic won't make it into the Corolla in the U.S. because Toyota's accountants will figure out it will take some of their profits away. Re torque, since you asked: 2009 Corolla 1.8L: 132 hp, 128 lb-ft torque 2008 Civic 1.8L: 140 hp, 128 lb-ft torque 2008 Elantra (with the ancient iron-block engine): 138 hp, 136 lb-ft torque |
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I am thinking to install AutoPage FA-110 Alarm System to my new Corolla Sport 2009. This system Add-on Security to factory Keyless Entry. Does anybody have experience with this alarm and if so, would you recommend it. |
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Replying to: backy (Mar 14, 2008 11:42 am)  backy anybody who has been on this forum more than once knows your feelings about Toyota. You have the worst case of " beating a dead horse syndrome" I have ever seen.  By the way I am retired from Ford and never worked for Toyota.
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Replying to: windjammer (Mar 15, 2008 6:34 am) Would posts that continually talk about how perfect the new Corolla is and note that its faults aren't relevant also constitute "beating a dead horse"? Would continually berating posters who happen to have a not-all-positive view of the 2009 Corolla constitute "beating a dead horse"? In case you haven't noticed (maybe because you're too busy jumping on people who are actually discussing the Corolla vs. contributing to the discussion?), I've said many positive things about the new Corolla here, multiple times. I've talked about its quiet ride, its improved driving position, its roomier interior, its large trunk, its fuel economy, the availability of upscale features like Bluetooth and nav, and its improved standard safety features. Maybe I should stop talking about those positive aspects of the Corolla, though, before someone tells me I am beating a dead horse. 
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