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#1600 of 3103 Re: could this be the 2009 toyota corolla? [backy]
by kasper06
Oct 21, 2007 (11:47 am)
Toyota Motor Corp is a very conservative company. Always has been and always will be. If you are looking for radical styling Toyota is the wrong auto company for you. If you want super reliability, durability, dependability, and quality Toyota is the right auto company for you. Toyota is not perfect. You will never have perfect 100% reliability with anything. But Toyota comes as close to perfection as you are going to find in the auto business. By the way, the Corolla was never sent back to the drawing board when the 2006 Civic came out. I'm not sure who put that false info out there. The new 10th gen Corolla design was approved long before the new Civic came out. The interior of the new Corolla looks very Lexus like and the exterior is very classy looking.
#1601 of 3103 Re: could this be the 2009 toyota corolla? [pd83]
by kdhspyder
Oct 21, 2007 (7:31 pm)
i thought toyota delayed the full redesign for the 08 so they could design a more aggressive looking corolla.
No this was never true it was one of those internet rumors that developed a life of its own. As backy noted the Corolla is a mass market economy vehicle. It's the quintessential mass market vehicle being sold all over Asia, Australia, Europe, and all the Americas essentially the same everywhere. The NADM vehicle will look like the Euro/Aussie vehicle.
Toyota is expecting it to pass the Camry and become the No 1 auto in the US ( and Canada? ).
#1602 of 3103 Re: could this be the 2009 toyota corolla? [kdhspyder]
by backy
Oct 21, 2007 (7:58 pm)
For the Corolla to become Toyota's #1 seller, that tells me it will need to be bigger inside, to appeal to a wider range of families. Anyone know how big the new Corolla is supposed to be inside? Will it jump into the EPA "midsized" class, like the Elantra and Sentra?
#1603 of 3103 Re: could this be the 2009 toyota corolla? [backy]
by kasper06
Oct 21, 2007 (8:18 pm)
The all new 2009 Corolla will remain a compact car. It will be a bit roomier inside compared to the current version though. Exterior dimensions are as follows:
2009
Length = 178.7"
Width = 69.3"
Height = 58.1"
Wheelbase = 102.3"
As you can see length only grows fractionally. Width increases the most. The car will look way more proportionate now with the increase in width.
2008
Length = 178.3"
Width = 66.9"
Height = 58.5"
Wheelbase = 102.4"
#1604 of 3103 Re: could this be the 2009 toyota corolla? [backy]
by kdhspyder
Oct 22, 2007 (5:43 am)
I believe that the new Gen is going to be almost exactly the same size as the current model.
I guess I should have read one more post before typing..
. What he said.
However reading between the lines I think that Toyota sees there being a massive shift in buying patterns due to sharply rising fuel costs. All the recent studies point to our supplies getting tighter and tighter yet our usage ( demand ) is likely to be 30-60% higher than now. Something's gotta give.
If there's just barely sufficient fuel for our current national fleet but our 5-15 yr demand is going to be say 50% greater than now..
a) we'll have to be using other forms of fuel
b) all the vehicles will have to be 30-50% more efficient
c) the demand for smaller more efficient vehicles will jump significantly as fuel prices ratchet up.
This market shift is being recognized by all the vehicle makers now since fuel is stuck in the $2.60-$3.50 range and probably going to $4-ish soon. Toyota, Nissan and Honda have all come out with much smaller vehicles over the last 3 yrs. GM and Ford are planning redo's on their key small vehicles.
#1605 of 3103 Re: could this be the 2009 toyota corolla? [kasper06]
by backy
Oct 22, 2007 (6:36 am)
Thanks. However, that doesn't tell me how big the new Corolla will be inside. It's possible to put mid-sized interior volume into a car with exterior dimensions like that--as demonstrated by the Elantra and Sentra. I'd be surprised if the new Corolla isn't bigger inside, since some of its competitors have an advantage there, and as noted Toyota is counting on the Corolla to be its sales leader in the U.S.
#1606 of 3103 Re: South Florida [sandman46]
by mackabee
Oct 22, 2007 (8:52 am)
"...can see slaes volume numbers very close to the Civics. "
Where have you been sandman? Hiding in the sand?
We've been kicking the Civic's butt for a while now with the current Corolla. Wait till this new one shows up. Should be soon. Creepy crawlers Halloween night!
Mackabee
#1607 of 3103 Re: could this be the 2009 toyota corolla? [backy]
by mackabee
Oct 22, 2007 (8:58 am)
"and as noted Toyota is counting on the Corolla to be its sales leader in the US"
I don't know who came up with this gem but our bread and butter is and always will be the Toyota Camry.
Mackabee
Oct 22, 2007 (9:34 am)
For the next five years maybe, but perhaps not forever.....
#1609 of 3103 Re: could this be the 2009 toyota corolla? [mackabee]
by backy
Oct 22, 2007 (9:41 am)
Toyota is expecting it to pass the Camry and become the No 1 auto in the US ( and Canada? ).
See 1601, I believe it was a Toyota salesperson who said:
Toyota is expecting it to pass the Camry and become the No 1 auto in the US ( and Canada? ).
I am a little surprised at that but not much. What was Toyota's #1 seller in the U.S. for many years? Corolla, wasn't it? And if the 2009 Corolla is much improved and still offers high fuel economy, I can see it passing up the Camry as gas prices keep climbing steadily upwards.