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Run-flat, self-sealing, PAX tires for Minivans

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#9 of 1439 Re: Self Sealing [samnoe] by attilauy Dec 01, 2004 (9:22 pm)
Replying to: samnoe (Nov 29, 2004 7:55 pm) What brand of self sealing tire do you have? I had Uniroyal and Bridgestone before on my two old 95 Maximas. Bridgestone was a better tire overall compared with Uniroyal. I never had flat tire even with several nails on both brands. However, they discontinued making both types of tires. I want to replace the tires of my '02 Maxima. What brand is still available?
#10 of 1439 PAX is the worst of all by impact01 Dec 02, 2004 (6:44 am)
The worst: Nonstandard PAX system with no spare bad: Runflats with No spare ok: Regular Tires (self sealing or otherwise) with donut spare best: Regular tires with full size spare   My Opinion of course.
#11 of 1439 Re: Run-flat, self-sealing, PAX tires for Minivans [heywood1] by gkkim Dec 02, 2004 (9:29 am)
Replying to: heywood1 (Dec 01, 2004 7:26 pm) Sure - with two regular flats, i was still waiting on the roadside for a tow-truck until 6:00 AM.   Even with only one hatbox at one Honda dealership, I would still be able to drive to the next Honda dealership - hopefully driving a total of less than 125 miles at 50 - 55 mph
#12 of 1439 donuts by stickguy Dec 02, 2004 (11:35 am)
You can actually drive more than 50 miles on a dunut, and they are rated for 50 mph at least.   keep in mind that the ratings are very conservstive (really worst case) to avoid problems (and liability). I've seen people doing 80 on a donut (dopes), and people who seem to have made them their permanent tire. Not sure how long they will last, but a lot longer than 50 miles.   Biggest problem with donuts, to me, is that most are wildly underinflated. They are supposed to carry 60psi, and I bet if you did a random check, 75+% would be way under that. Many people don't bother to check their regular tires, think they dig out the donut and fill that one up? Replies to this message: trashman3 (Dec 02, 2004 12:16 pm)
#13 of 1439 Re: PAX [a_l_hubcaps] by trashman3 Dec 02, 2004 (12:07 pm)
Replying to: a_l_hubcaps (Dec 01, 2004 2:02 pm) "The problem with the PAX tires on the Honda Odyssey is that they fit 17.5" wheels, which is a size that nobody has ever made before or since. "   Chevy used to make a 17.5" wheel in the 60's for PU Trucks. It was dumb then too. Replies to this message: heywood1 (Dec 02, 2004 3:15 pm)
#14 of 1439 Re: donuts [stickguy] by trashman3 Dec 02, 2004 (12:16 pm)
Replying to: stickguy (Dec 02, 2004 11:35 am) There is no great combination of tire type for driving or personal safety. I like the runflats on my Sienna. I ripped 2 fist size holes in the sidewall of one. They performed perfectly. I had to slow down, but I have a van full of kids when it happened. Flats often enough happen in multiple tires. Being able to safely make it home or to a garage, is a big plus.       I think the "Best" combination would be Runflats that self seal. Sidewall puncture are very common an self sealing tires don't seal sidewalls, and runflats don't seal at all.
#15 of 1439 Re: PAX [trashman3] by heywood1 Dec 02, 2004 (3:15 pm)
Replying to: trashman3 (Dec 02, 2004 12:07 pm) Actually, I think it's more like 18.1". Like Michelin's ill-fated TRX tires, I believe PAX measurement is metric.
#16 of 1439 by rorr Dec 02, 2004 (3:19 pm)
Well, I don't have that much of a beef with run-flats in general. My problem with PAX is that if, for whatever reason, you decide you don't like the tire (ride, noise, wear, traction, whatever) you CAN'T change it. And when it comes time to replace your tires, your choice is limited to a Michelin PAX or......a Michelin PAX.   "Thou Shalt Use PAX For Now And Forever More"   Uh......no.   Sorry Honda/Michelin. I refuse to buy into proprietary new technology whenever possible. Anybody run across a set of Michelin TRX tires at their local NTB lately?
#17 of 1439 No more PAX? by chewie5 Dec 02, 2004 (3:57 pm)
Do you think that it's likely that Honda will get rid of requiring PAX on the touring in the near future (mid-year change, or for '06)? I really wish they would have made it an option to begin with. Replies to this message: chiaw (Dec 02, 2004 4:29 pm) indy93 (Dec 02, 2004 6:37 pm) attilauy (Dec 02, 2004 7:03 pm)
#18 of 1439 Re: No more PAX? [chewie5] by chiaw Dec 02, 2004 (4:29 pm)
Replying to: chewie5 (Dec 02, 2004 3:57 pm) I think probably a lot of perspective owner would forgo PAX and opt for HID instead.   Also, i still don't understand that if you decide to force PAX down customer's throat, why not redeisgn the spare tire area to allow wider 3rd row?

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