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Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Ford Freestar, Mercury Monterey, Tires, Wheels, Van
#378 of 1534 Re: So is it the case....?[jetmd]
May 08, 2005 (5:49 pm)
In a nutshell...the answer is 'yes.' I believe an AWD Sienna with new DSST's would be superior to a FWD Sienna with new OEM all-seasons (especially considering Toyota ladens otherwise great products with mediocre OEM's). The complaints with the Dunlop DSST's are more about premature wear. And based on the tread pattern, I don't think it was necessarily designed to be much of a performer in the snow.
The OEM Firestone Affinity tires on my 2003 FWD Sienna were like B.B.s on a greased sheet of glass in the rain. I replaced them less than a month after I bought the van new.
#379 of 1534 Re: getting going [user777]
May 08, 2005 (5:59 pm)
Certainly, that IS the biggest benefit, but the AWD has two extra 'wheels that grip' that can help you climb a steep grade on wet, undulated country road.
And wouldn't the benefit of traction control be double that of a FWD vehicle with TC?
#380 of 1534 Re: So is it the case....?[jetmd] [heywood1]
May 09, 2005 (6:51 am)
So AWD is better on the crummy OEM tires because the OEMs on the 2WD are also mediocre.
Will be heading over to Honda, I guess; I was down to Honda and Sienna.
Will not buy PAX, but will look at the OEM tire, and might also consider seeing if the Toyota dealer will put my choice of OEMs on a new car...this same dealership just sold a friend an AWD and they are REALLY bummed about the tire issue. I told them to try the Toyota customer rep, but I'm hope the dealership will make good.
#381 of 1534 Sienna Run Flat tires
May 10, 2005 (5:17 pm)
I am just wondering why there are so many complains about the Sienna's run flat tire. There are other cars using run flat tires like for example BMW 330xi, they rarely complain. If the tire brand is the culprit, then they just have to switch the brand of tire. Is the problem inherent in the Sienna's mechanica design?
I am considering a Sienna AWD. This Run flat tire problems is making me think twice about this minivan. Any help?
#382 of 1534 Re: BMW & Sienna Run Flat tires [attilauy]
May 11, 2005 (6:37 pm)
Well, I don't know about 'rarely' complain.
A quick check of the TireRack website turned up only one run-flat option for the 330xi (205/50/VR17 Goodyear Eagle RS-A's)-- and that was only for cars equipped with the Sport Package. 'On special' for $199 each, they have only mediocre reviews for tread life and hydro resistance.
For the AWD Sienna, the TireRack lists only Dunlop and Bridgestone as run-flat options.
In either case, 'just switching the brand of tire' is more easily said than done.
#383 of 1534 Re: BMW & Sienna Run Flat tires [heywood1]
May 12, 2005 (1:58 pm)
So is there anything good to say about the Pax Run Flats? Everyone is so negative! Should I avoid the Odyssey Touring model at all costs?
#384 of 1534 Re: BMW & Sienna Run Flat tires [dbh1]
May 12, 2005 (2:13 pm)
I was initially skeptical about PAX but ended up buying a Touring. There is no question that there are some negatives (especially replacement hassles so early in the product's life) but, at least to me, they are outweighed by some significant positives.
Bottom line - if I have a flat anywhere I normally drive I can get home or to a Honda store for repairs. Perhaps twice a year when traveling long distance I take a chance on getting stranded for a day.
#385 of 1534 Re: Should I avoid the Touring? [dbh1]
May 12, 2005 (3:31 pm)
I'd consider buying a Touring if I could get one at--or below--invoice, so I could offset the future (and on-going) replacement & maintenance costs of PAX.
I just don't see where the relatively marginal value of the upgrades of a Touring (vs. a loaded EX-L) are worth the hassle of PAX-- especially when (unlike the Sienna) there's no added value of AWD.
At the risk of 'repeating myself constantly,' I maintain that if Honda offered a power lift gate and memory seats on EX-L's, they wouldn't sell any Tourings at all....
#386 of 1534 Can you put regular tires on Sienna 17" rims
May 12, 2005 (7:52 pm)
Is it possible to put ordinary tires on a Sienna AWD, and avoid the runflat problem?
If so, is there a place to put a donut spare beside the seat well?
Can the FWD be ordered with 17" tires that are not runflat?
Thanx for any help...
#387 of 1534 Re: Should I avoid the Touring? [heywood1]
May 13, 2005 (6:12 am)
Oh, I doubt that. For the majority of the people I deal with, the power tailgate doesn't seem to be that big of a deal. Same applies to the memory seats.