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#21 of 1440 Re: No more PAX? [chewie5] by attilauy Dec 02, 2004 (7:03 pm)
Replying to: chewie5 (Dec 02, 2004 3:57 pm) I am sure that Honda will make PAX optional.This PAX business really made the touring unpopular to some would be customers. I think it is better to make it optional like the Nav. I will trade it to HID anytime. I hope Honda is monitoring the forum, otherwise many customers will go to Toyota just because of this PAX fiasco.
#22 of 1440 Exb0 by steve_ HOST Dec 02, 2004 (8:45 pm)
"Pax" means "peace" in Latin, as in peace of mind if you have a flat, I guess. (Washington Post).   Steve, Host
#23 of 1440 chewie5 by rorr Dec 03, 2004 (11:19 am)
"Do you think that it's likely that Honda will get rid of requiring PAX on the touring in the near future (mid-year change, or for '06)?"   It is possible that Michelin has a contract with Honda which would prevent them from opting out of using the PAX system for a few years. Michelin would have been smart to ensure that Honda couldn't 'back out' of using their new tire system after only 1 model year.
#24 of 1440 Canadian Tourings Without PAX by cccompson Dec 03, 2004 (4:43 pm)
Has anyone heard a rationale from Honda as to why the Canadian Touring models are not equipped with PAX?   The only thought that comes to my mind is that, aside from certain parts of Ontario and Quebec, there may be too few places too far apart to reliably service them.
#25 of 1440 cccompson by rorr Dec 06, 2004 (8:12 am)
Perhaps it is because Michelin does not make a snow tire for the PAX system. And since the PAX system is proprietary (meaning nobody elses snow tires will fit), that would be a fairly heavy penalty for Canadian drivers. Replies to this message: susiej (Dec 06, 2004 9:44 am)
#26 of 1440 Feasibility of buying the car in Canada? by susiej Dec 06, 2004 (9:43 am)
Is it possible to buy a car in Canada if you live in the States? I guess one issue would be the odometer would be metric . I would definitely consider the Touring model if PAX weren't standard. I think we will probably go with Sienna instead. Replies to this message: steve_ (Dec 06, 2004 9:47 am) susiej (Dec 06, 2004 10:04 am)
#27 of 1440 Re: cccompson [rorr] by susiej Dec 06, 2004 (9:44 am)
Replying to: rorr (Dec 06, 2004 8:12 am) There are plenty of us Americans who live in the snow belt as well! I think you are right though, that is the primary reason.
#28 of 1440 Re: Feasibility of buying the car in Canada? [susiej] by steve_ HOST Dec 06, 2004 (9:47 am)
Replying to: susiej (Dec 06, 2004 9:43 am) You can buy a van in Canada, but Honda USA won't honour the warranty (absent special circumstances).   Steve, Host Replies to this message: susiej (Dec 06, 2004 10:04 am)
#29 of 1440 Re: Feasibility of buying the car in Canada? [steve_] by susiej Dec 06, 2004 (10:04 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Dec 06, 2004 9:47 am) Excellent and important point!
#30 of 1440 Re: [exb0] by ckirk Dec 06, 2004 (4:27 pm)
Replying to: exb0 (Dec 02, 2004 5:34 pm) I also was curious and googled this at http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/editorial/features/index.cfm/a- ct/feature36   The PAX system isn't just a tire; it's a tire/wheel package that consists of four components: a tire, a wheel, an inner support ring, and a tire-inflation monitor. If the PAX-system tire loses air pressure--whether due to a small puncture or a huge hole in the sidewall--it doesn't go "flat"; it only drops about halfway down. At that point, the underside of the tread rests on an inner support ring that runs around the circumference of the wheel.

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