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Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Ford Freestar, Mercury Monterey, Tires, Wheels, Van
#1495 of 1534 Re: De-PAX Update [edwardtinsley]
Sep 26, 2010 (5:37 am)
Just wondering how de-PAX life is working out for you. Are you still happy with the conversion? Would you do it again? I think the increased mileage (an extra 2 mpg is significant!) is very interesting. How about the handling?
#1496 of 1534 Re: De-PAX Update [ghank]
Sep 26, 2010 (5:40 am)
I have an 05 Ody as well and it's time for a new set of tires ($1340). Did you de-PAX and how did that go for you? Any insights would be helpful.
#1497 of 1534 Re: De-PAX Update [katjones1]
Sep 26, 2010 (10:26 am)
Folks who've "DePAXed" have almost universally reported significant improvements in both ride and handling versus the lame PAX wheel/tire system. The only safety concern per-se is that you will need to buy a spare tire kit for your van.
#1498 of 1534 Re: De-PAX Update [shipo]
Sep 26, 2010 (7:03 pm)
I concur. We're 15K miles into DePax, no complaints. Had some vibrations but our tire shop did a lengthy rebalancing/testing and all fine. Very plsd w Continental ContiPro Contacts. As you've seen on this board, pretty simple. keeping PAX big negative is cost ($1340 now, your next set will be closer to $1800 since the PAX pool is small and shrinking). De-PAX negative is hassle and conversion cost, and of course your nexct flat is a regular flat. No run flat back up, but it also won't leave you stranded in a remote area while they FedEx a new PAX (for $400).
Also, small point but as a lawyer I think this is important. If you DePAX and sell directly (as opposed to a trade in), have the buyer sign a written notice acknowleding they are aware the car was DePAXed. Remote risk, but you don't want your buyer to claim they didn't know ...
#1499 of 1534 Re: De-PAX Update [skap2]
Sep 28, 2010 (7:21 pm)
So someone could take us to court for not "informing" them while Honda/Michelin get away with what they have done to all the Touring owners out there? Yeah, I guess that's the way it goes in this crazy world.
I have just ordered a de-PAX kit from College-Hills Honda in Ohio. I called 3 local Honda dealers in St Louis and they don't want to touch it because "Honda sent us a letter and so we cant." The 4th said they would do it for me. I asked the guys at College-Hills, "So why are you doing this when almost everyone else is too afraid and saying 'No way'?" And they said, "Because it's the right thing to do." I'm sure I could find the wheels cheaper elsewhere but I'm happy to give these guys my business for sticking their necks out for us.
#1500 of 1534 Re: De-PAX Update [katjones1]
Oct 02, 2010 (5:51 am)
If you don't mind sharing, what kind of pricing did College-Hills give you? I live very remote from dealers so will need to find someone to help out.
#1501 of 1534 Re: De-PAX Update [aggie76]
Oct 02, 2010 (6:10 am)
While I have only heard good things about College-Hills Honda; you can find other options over at TireRack.com. I just looked up a 17" wheel package with TPMS sensors, highly ranked Michelin Primacy MXV4 tires, and good looking Moda MD10 wheels for only $1,172.00. Not too shabby.
#1502 of 1534 De-PAX'd and very happy ...
Oct 04, 2010 (6:00 am)
Thanks to all on this forum. I was at 64K miles and looking at my 3rd set of PAX tires (no way at another $1,400). I recently de-PAX’ed my 2006 Touring for about the same $1,400 price and could not be happier. Lots of options, but I ended up getting remanufactured 2008 Odyssey EXL wheels 16” (42700-SHJ-L81) with new lug nuts and sensors, put on Goodyear Assurance Comfort Tread Touring tires 235/65-16, and added the spare tire in the back. The ride is so much smoother and quieter than before – no more wheel shake and vibration due to those crappy PAX tires (even when the car was perfectly aligned with the PAX tires it always shake and pulled). While at first the car does not seem to drive “as sporty” (maybe it is the fact that the PAX tires were >400 lbs with sidewalls like steel vs. the new all season tires that are <160 lbs) … it does not feel “mushy”, handles well, and it is so much more enjoyable to drive in town and on long trips. My only complaint is that I wish I would have done this before buying my 2nd set of PAX ties at 37K miles. Note – we did look at doing after market wheels (like the 17” Elbrus 102), but decided to stay with the OEM look. BTW – I noticed Honda is going to start charging a $50/wheel “core” fee for wheels – so not sure how this is going to impact the cost of replacing with OEM wheels going forward – my guess is cut up those PAX tires, yank out the sensors, and send those the nice looking but crappy wheels back to Honda to save $200. American Honda Launches Alloy Wheel Recycling Program 9/29/2010 American Honda Motor Co, Inc. announced the launch of its new alloy wheel recycling program. Beginning Oct. 1, American Honda will institute a core charge on all original equipment replacement Honda and Acura alloy wheels sold to its respective dealerships as an incentive to have the wheels recovered. Once the wheels are returned to American Honda, they will be melted down and reprocessed. For decades, American Honda says it has been an industry leader in creating more environmentally responsible means of producing automobiles and other products and that it remains committed to continuously reducing its ecological footprint and being an environmentally responsible citizen. American Honda already recycles or remanufactures many replacement parts. “This is definitely a further step in the right direction” says Bruce Smith, vice president of American Honda Parts Operations. “Recycling alloy wheels will save space in landfills, help prevent ground pollution and allow the metal to be re-purposed — all good for our environment.” The program does not apply to any replacement alloy wheels purchased by Honda or Acura dealers prior to Sept. 20, 2010. Accessory wheels and steel wheels are excluded from the program.
#1503 of 1534 Re: De-PAX 2006 Odyssey Touring wont pass emissions [rtruns_honda]
Oct 06, 2010 (8:41 pm)
I'm curious about the class action. Can you point me in the right direction? I want Honda and Michelin to pay and correct the error they made in installing a that awfull PAX in the touring (and for deceiving customers and not assuming responsibility)