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#1425 of 1439 Re: PAX second set [amjd1] by chirp Sep 14, 2009 (6:40 am)
Replying to: amjd1 (Sep 08, 2009 6:49 am) You should have no trouble getting to 40K miles. I still had room to the wear bars, but winter is coming and decided to switch them out now. Keep the pressure up at 37 or so and they ride and wear perfectly. I'm in Chicago as well and totally concur with your statement. This van has also taken two 3,500 mile round trips to the East coast and onto the island of Manhatten
#1426 of 1439 Re: Sitting here with a KNOT in my stomach-Upset [vinnyny] by deerface26 Sep 28, 2009 (8:10 am)
Replying to: vinnyny (Aug 25, 2009 8:22 pm) Apologies for this HUGE delay in response....never got the Spare tire installed, although this is something I can going to schedule. Back tires were replaced Brand New by dealer on August pickup and we went to NJ shore with no problem. Front 2 tires will need replacing at some point...keeing an eye on them. I will keep my eye on tire pressue around 36 psi - as I think that's good. I will get the tire rotates every 6,000 miles -- we are not heavy drivers.... I just love Honda Odyssee -- it's our 4th one, but our FIRST Touring - so a little nervous with the whole PAX crisis you read on everyone's forum...scarey to say the least.   Thank you again. Replies to this message: vinnyny (Sep 28, 2009 2:50 pm) cstiles (Oct 05, 2009 10:44 am) smlycat (Oct 05, 2009 11:23 am)
#1427 of 1439 Re: Sitting here with a KNOT in my stomach-Upset [deerface26] by vinnyny Sep 28, 2009 (2:50 pm)
Replying to: deerface26 (Sep 28, 2009 8:10 am) My latest PAX tires are almost gone at 27K miles. If I get the right number for the van, it's gone this week. It sounds silly, but I refuse to pay $12-1500 for tires every other year. The Ody holds its value so well, that it looks like it will cost me less than $400 month again (this is our fourth). Replies to this message: cstiles (Oct 05, 2009 10:44 am) smlycat (Oct 05, 2009 11:23 am)
#1428 of 1439 Re: Sitting here with a KNOT in my stomach-Upset [vinnyny] by cstiles Oct 05, 2009 (10:44 am)
Replying to: vinnyny (Sep 28, 2009 2:50 pm) We are at 64K miles on our 2006 Ody Touring and our 3rd set of PAX. Replaced the first set at 31K and the 2nd set at 33K miles so our wear has been fairly consistent. I also rotate regularly so all four tires showed fairly even wear. Bumped up psi to the 35~37 range for the 2nd set. Cost to replace was $1,250 plus tax. This is our last set of PAX as the van will be traded prior to hitting 85K. I appreciate the techology but Michelin never delivered with enough support or availability, and the cost to replace a set is about $500 too high to make the business case. Consequently, as others have suggested, PAX has gone the way of TRX.
#1429 of 1439 Re: Sitting here with a KNOT in my stomach-Upset [vinnyny] by smlycat Oct 05, 2009 (11:23 am)
Replying to: vinnyny (Sep 28, 2009 2:50 pm) Forget the PAX tires, go with a set of EX wheels. Several dealers are offering a package deal that includes the TPMS. We did about 2 years ago and have had zero problems. For that matter, Tirerack offers several alternatives as well.
#1430 of 1439 FREE AT LAST...FREE AT LAST! by vinnyny Oct 05, 2009 (5:53 pm)
After owning four Odysseys in the last 8 years, I finally had all I could stand with the PAX debacle. When I took my 07 touring in for a few minor repairs, the technician checked out the whole van--he reported back that my PAX tires might last another 2000 miles if I was lucky (current odometer = 27000). I got 35k miles out of my last set of PAX, so this was a bit of a surprise. I changed the oil and rotated the tires religiously at 5000 miles and kept tire pressure constant. The dealer's price to replace my PAX tires would be $1434 plus tax ($90). So, I traded the van for a Mazda CX-9. I still think the Odyssey is the best family vehicle ever sold in this country, but Honda really let us down by not standing behind PAX.
#1431 of 1439 PAX free by thebings Oct 05, 2009 (6:18 pm)
After reading every message on this forum for a couple years and fretting about my PAX tires, I am finally PAX free. I have a 2006 and went with 2009 Acura TL wheels and BF Goodrich Long Trail T/A Touring 235/60/17. I bought new TPMS and they reset just fine. A special THANK YOU to everyone that has taken the time to post all the information on this forum. It made my decision a lot easier. Don Replies to this message: deerface26 (Oct 07, 2009 11:13 am) thebings (Oct 07, 2009 2:18 pm)
#1432 of 1439 2007 Sienna, can I replace 2 tires? by rareair Oct 07, 2009 (10:47 am)
I am sure the question has been discussed at length but was not able to really find an answer in the forum. SO here it comes again. I have a 07’ Sienna Limited AWD (Purchased with 7,000 miles in 2008). the van has 23k miles on the van and same on the tires) I completely blew it on the rotating tire schedule (I learned my lesson). I now have two shot front RFT OEM tires and 2 pretty good rear tires with tons of tread. I am having trouble deciding my next move. I have visited 3 tire stores to get some advice   Costco they don’t do run flats but could put on 4 nice all season Michelins for $600+. Les Schwab who advised only run flats and only 4 tires at $1,000.   Discount Tires, can do 2 run flats and rotate the used RFT to the front and put new ones in the back (around $400. Is this a really bad Idea or just "not ideal"   I am hoping folks using this forum have some experience in this give me your two cents as far as moving forward. Replies to this message: smlycat (Oct 07, 2009 11:06 am) rareair (Oct 07, 2009 11:28 am) smlycat (Oct 08, 2009 8:57 am) krzyss (Oct 08, 2009 8:45 am)
#1433 of 1439 Re: 2007 Sienna, can I replace 2 tires? [rareair] by smlycat Oct 07, 2009 (11:06 am)
Replying to: rareair (Oct 07, 2009 10:47 am) Just how shot are the fronts with only 7K on them? That's usually the time to rotate them accordign to most owner's manuals. I'd rotate them - the fronts take most of the abuse - and just watch it on wet roads if the tread is gone. Again, I can't believe the tread is shot at 7k.   Check your tire pressure weekly. Low pressure is your enemy. Check for uneven wear, this would idicate an alignment problem.   If you have to replace them, I'd probably opt for the run flats since you can have them repaired at most tire shops. Question, do you have a jack, tools, and a spare? If so, then going with less costly conventional tires is an option too. But $400 for 2 tires out the door is about the norm these days. Replies to this message: rareair (Oct 07, 2009 11:28 am) smlycat (Oct 08, 2009 8:57 am)
#1434 of 1439 Re: PAX free [thebings] by deerface26 Oct 07, 2009 (11:13 am)
Replying to: thebings (Oct 05, 2009 6:18 pm) Hi Don, I will probably end up PAX free in the not too distant future....how much did the Acura wheels and BF tires run - all linstalled? Curious. And who did it for you? Honda Dealer, someone else? I own my Odyssey. Many thanks, Katonah Replies to this message: thebings (Oct 07, 2009 2:18 pm)

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