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1439 messages, Last post on Oct 15, 2009 at 2:25 PM
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Replying to: vinnyny (Aug 22, 2009 5:16 am) Well we bought the 2007 with PAX tire set (2 out of 4 brand new), dealer would not go for the other 2 but picked up my last payments on my current lease so that what the price of the other 2 tires. Ride is great I must admit and the Touring is amazing. 2007 or not ! There are nearby run-flat service places not far away and we were loaded up with kids, luggage, etc. So far, we love it, and let's see what happens from here on out...
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Replying to: deerface26 (Aug 24, 2009 6:54 pm) Congrats on your Ody. We had the same 2007 touring and really enjoy it. I am keeping the PAX tires. While it may not be around in 5 years, I really give me a peace of mind knowing that the car can be driven for 125 miles when the tire is flat. Did you manage to get the dealer install you a spare tire? |
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Replying to: deerface26 (Aug 24, 2009 6:54 pm) |
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Replying to: mixa1 (Jun 20, 2009 7:08 pm) I am a lawyer but this is only general suggestions, not specific to any one individual or claim. First, it is always best to get advice from a lawyer in your jurisdiction. Laws vary in each state, and a lawyer can explain what law is applicable to your claim, whether you have a good case, how best to pursue it, etc. For most depax claims, you will be near or well within the small claims limit. That means in most instances your case will be heard informally by a judge (see my prior posting on this subject). However, its very important to have your legal argument well prepared. That means you can't just say Honda and Michelin ripped me off, or that pax is scam. When I file my small claim in the future, I will argue that Honda/Michelin violated my state's consumer protection statute by failing to disclose material (meaning important) facts about the pax system, including cost of replacement and low-mile tread wear. Every state has a consumer protection statute, just google that term and your state. That search will also likely tell you about consumer protection groups in your state. They may be able to give you guidance in how to prepare your case. In most states discovery is not allowed in small claims. If your state allows discovery, you want to ask Honda/Michelin to produce all documents and information that discuss pax cost and limitations. Problem is that for a small case judge will likely limit what you can ask for. I think it would be helpful to have Honda/Michelin produce the sales and marketing material on pax during the year you purchased your vehicle. We know it says nothing about the well-documented issue on cost and treadwear. You can also print out info from the internet, which a judge may or may not allow. Generally, a judge will be more open to credible sources (for example, a trade journal article on pax problems, v. ranting by a customer on this board). On costs if you lose, generally loser does not pay in the US especially for smaller claims (which is a big subject on tort reform). HOWEVER, laws vary by state so before you file, make sure to check with the court clerk and ask if losing party pays costs. If they refuse to answer, get legal advice on that within your state.
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I'm at 38,000 miles along with 3 years of trouble-free driving and just replaced my PAX tires with a new set for $1,263. This should provide me with another 3 years of driving and then I will trade out the van. I still don't understand how some people only get 20,000 miles out of these tires, poor gas mileage and complain of a bad ride. I have had none of these issues or complaints.
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I have bought a set of wheels from a 2009 Acura TL for my 2006 Odyssey Touring. Which lug nuts do I buy, the ones for the Acura wheels (90304-TK4-A01) or the ones for the later year (08-09) Odyssey (90304-SJA-A91)? Thanks for any help. Don |
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Replying to: skap2 (Aug 31, 2009 4:58 pm) |
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Replying to: chirp (Sep 01, 2009 7:47 am)
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