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#1343 of 1439 Re: PAX suit settled- hearing Jan14 [05toering] by gary_mag Jan 16, 2009 (9:12 pm)
Replying to: 05toering (Jan 06, 2009 2:25 pm) Do you have any details as to what the judgment was this past Wednesday?   I am part of the Class Action Lawsuit.
#1344 of 1439 Re: Negotiating w dealer [skap2] by bukfan Jan 19, 2009 (8:15 pm)
Replying to: skap2 (Jan 03, 2009 4:23 pm) I'm in Ohio and having a difficult time finding any Honda dealer who will help. Even the simple question "will the EX wheels fit my touring edition?" Blank look and an "I don't see why not." I would like to know which OH dealer knows how to dePax. Replies to this message: edwardtinsley (Jan 20, 2009 5:53 am) skap2 (Jan 20, 2009 5:55 am) bukfan (Jan 23, 2009 1:39 pm)
#1345 of 1439 Re: Negotiating w dealer [bukfan] by edwardtinsley Jan 20, 2009 (5:53 am)
Replying to: bukfan (Jan 19, 2009 8:15 pm) I live in Georgia and got no help from my dealer either. The service manager seemed interested in putting a package together, but was shot down by the owner of the dealership. He put it this simply... liability. The owner of the dealership said they were afraid they would be held liable for any accident that occured as a result of a flat tire. Saying that someone (other than the owner that demanded the run-flats be removed) driving the van might assume the Touring had run-flats and might continue to drive it with a flat tire, causing an accident. They said that unless Honda specifically ok'd a program, they would not help.
#1346 of 1439 Re: Negotiating w dealer [bukfan] by skap2 Jan 20, 2009 (5:55 am)
Replying to: bukfan (Jan 19, 2009 8:15 pm) http://www.collegehillshonda.com/honda_odyssey_accessories/05_07_odyssey_exterio- r.htm Replies to this message: bukfan (Jan 23, 2009 1:39 pm)
#1347 of 1439 Settlement Preview by skap2 Jan 22, 2009 (7:57 am)
http://www.mddailyrecord.com/article.cfm?id=10486&type=UTTM   Well, my prediction was slightly optimistic for us and slightly modest for the lawyers. According to the reports, $3 million in fees for them (I predicted 1-2), and Michelin will cover replacement costs pro rata relative to present tread wear. Which is what the original warranty provides anyway. Upshot is jackpot for the plaintiffs lawyers, Honda and Michelin are immunized and we basically get nothing.   If these terms are final, my advice is that as many as possible should opt out of the settlement (I will). If 10 opt out they can crush us, if 1,000 do it that changes the game since each individual case costs $500-$1,000 for them to defend in small claims. In most cases these claims can be brought in local small claims court, no guarantee of victory but zero is what we have now.
#1348 of 1439 Re: Negotiating w dealer [skap2] by bukfan Jan 23, 2009 (1:39 pm)
Replying to: skap2 (Jan 20, 2009 5:55 am) Huge help! Thanks for the link. The video podcast on dePaxing is great! Unbelievable how my dealer says they have never heard of such a thing but the junk yard knows exactly what I'm talking about when I mention PAX.
#1349 of 1439 Needed: resource for wheel size matching by bukfan Jan 23, 2009 (7:06 pm)
I need a good resource for finding out what wheels will fit my 2007 odyssey. When I call Honda all I get is a run around. I have found 2009 pilot wheels...how do I find out if they will fit?
#1350 of 1439 What wheels will fit by bukfan Jan 24, 2009 (9:13 am)
I called college hills honda this morning. They are great! A big hand to them for seeing a problem and working on a solution. Way better then my local dealers who deny that they have ever heard of a problem and refuse to give out any information. They have a new link that they just posted yesterday. When you go to the below link and see the dePAX kit click on new location this will take you to a list of honda wheels that will fit your odyssey. My husband is still pressing our dealer to do something. They will let us know Monday. I'm doubtful they will do much if anything.   http://www.collegehillshonda.com/honda_odyssey_accessories/05_07_odyssey_exterio- r.htm   Thanks to skap2 for this original link!!
#1351 of 1439 No more pax by Ed_paxhater Jan 25, 2009 (6:47 pm)
If you live in the Asheville,nc area Mike Smith at Smith Family Tire can depax your odyssey. Had my wifes 05 done yesterday. Mike Smith is a Pro when it comes to tires and wheels. Went to the shop a few days before and order the tires and wheel. Mike called me on the 3rd morning on a friday. Told me tires and wheels were there. I had to work friday so, i told mike i would come by saturday. Arrived at Smith family Tire at 8:30 was leaving at 10:00 smiling, with no more pax tires on the odyssey. The wheel my wife chose looks better than the originals but similar in style. There are several to choose from in wheel tire combinations. I chose the 17inch because this close to what she had. The cost to depax your odyssey should be around $1000.00 depending on what wheel and tire you choose. If you wish to keep the pax tires on the pax wheels please tell mike. If your keeping the tires you will have to buy new tire pressure sensors (tps). If you dont want the tires they will cut a hole in them to retrieve the existing sensors using them in the new wheel. At no cost, if there working why not use them. If you want to step up to an 18inch wheel it will cost you more and there is not as good as tire selection. If your driving in the asheville area stop by and see Mike at Smith Family Tire 5455 Old Haywood Rd. Its off of airport rd and near the end of brevard rd in mills river. Do a search for Smith Family Tire you should find his phone#. Glad i did!
#1352 of 1439 Depax in Chicago by cdavi Jan 26, 2009 (6:15 pm)
Has anyone found a dealer or tire shop in the Chicago area that has depax'ed an Odyssey? When I asked my dealer, they acted like they've never heard of anyone getting rid of the PAX tires.

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