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Replying to: nyssaz (Sep 22, 2008 1:31 pm) |
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I am PAX free as of 10/31/08. Here's my short story... Bought my 2006 Odyssey Touring brand new. By 39,000 miles I had replaced 5 tires to the tune of $1500 ($300 each). I only use my local Honda dealer for service, including religious rotating and inspection of tire pressures. Enough was enough. Purchased a set of 4 2009 Honda Pilot 17" wheels on ebay (from another Honda dealer) for $330. Purchased the necessary 20 lug nuts (acorn style) and 4 new TPMS sensors from the dealer for $280. Called Sears and had new Michelin Energy LX4 235/60/17 tires installed for $750. TPMS sensors immediately set themselves with no trip to the dealer. Total cost for me to DePAX was $1360. I expect to recoup some of that when I sell the 4 Touring PAX wheels and tires with sensors AND the TPMS sensors that came with the Pilot Wheels I bought. FYI, the PAX wheels and tires that came off the Odyssey weighed in at 75lbs each. The new Pilot wheels and tires weighed in at 53lbs each. I expect this weight savings to translate into slightly better MPG. To everyone having problems with the PAX system and sitting on the fence about this issue, I encourage you to make the switch. It takes just a little bit of research and time, but the benefits are worth it. Edward |
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Replying to: edwardtinsley (Nov 05, 2008 8:17 am)  27K. I bought a set of used EX wheels, same lugnuts work on both wheels, but I had to buy new sensors of course. The EX wheels drive better in my opinion than the PAX - not as harsh a ride, somewhat softer, but it still tracks well. I've not seen any fuel improvement however. We're still getting 15.5 on average in town and sometimes 20 on the highway - usually 19 despite a hundred pound in weight reduction. The spare does add about 30 lbs if memory serves. So 70 lb's +/- isn't going to make a huge difference. Where you'll see the savings is on tire replacement. I decided on the 16" vs. a set of 17" for that very reason. 16" tires are plentiful and priced about a $100 each whereas the 17" are double that. Honda really sold us a bill of goods on the MPG numbers. I would encrourage you to keep your PAX for a year or so because there are several class action lawsuits pending and they (Honda) may want these wheels/tires back for an exchange program etc....
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Replying to: smlycat (Nov 05, 2008 8:33 am) |
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As far as mileage goes. I usually get 18 around town and 23-24 on the highway. My Dad has an '05 EX and gets 26 on the highway. He keeps the speed down to 60-65, even in a 70 zone. I've noted that as well. If I run between 75-80, the mpg goes down closer to 22.
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Replying to: edwardtinsley (Nov 06, 2008 7:17 pm) |
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Replying to: edwardtinsley (Nov 06, 2008 7:17 pm) Regards, JEff |
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Replying to: edwardtinsley (Nov 05, 2008 8:17 am) arinc.com?
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I have a 2007 ODY Touring. I've gotten 42000+ miles on the OEM Pax tires and could get another 5K if I wanted, still have 3/32 + tread. One flat repair at $100.00. I'm a 95% interstate driver here in Atlanta. Was quoted $1327.00 for 4 new PAX tires installed by a local Honda dealer. I could not keep the PAX tires balanced after the first rotation, it's OK for while then starts shaking at 65-75 mph after a couple of weeks. 2 Dealers and 1 tire store tried for a total of 7 times with the same results. I replaced everything with the following parts at a Discount Tire dealer. " Very Professional People" 1. 4 - 235/60R-17 Michelin Energy LX4 tires 2. 4 - Beyern Mesh 1780BYM305120S72 Silver wheels 3. 1 set Gorilla Guard 61443ND lug nuts 4. 1 set 72.6 - 64.1 Excaliber Metal ring set 5. 4 #2000K TPMS Rebuild Kit They used the original TPMS units on the new wheels. I am out the door at $1580 with great looking wheels the ride is better and steering seems more responsive. The tires set a little bit further out in the wheel wells but not bad. Under $700 the next tire change. Hope this info helps if someone wants to switch out the PAX.
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