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Run-flat, self-sealing, PAX tires for Minivans

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Re: NY Times PAX Announcement [shipo] by actualsize
Jun 27, 2008 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 25, 2008 5:04 pm)

I'm not surprised. RFTs fitted to BMWs are the standard, stiff-sidewall variety. They have little compliance, they're slightly heavier, they're skittish (especially if the road has imperfections, i.e. a real road,) and all the suspension tuning in the world won't overcome the basic liability incurred by fitting cement-like tires. Damage control is all that run-flat tuned suspension is.
 
Same is true of an Odyssey, but in a slightly different vein. Sure the PAX ring made it possible to retain softish-sidewalls, but the humungous unsprung mass of a PAX at each corner required more damping in the struts to keep them on the ground and forced the use of tie-rod ends with bulbous mass dampers on them. Damage control again, but for high unsprung mass instead of stiff tires.
 
Run-flat tires of any kind impose engineering compromises that no ride engineer wants to make.
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Depax kit by rv65
Jun 27, 2008 (5:32 pm)
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Collegehillshonda is working on a depax kit. Can be modular so you add what you want. The bad thing is that 05-06 models have a different type of lugnut while the 07-08 models have the traditional kind. The 07 and up lugnuts do retrofit a 2005-2006 model but it will take about 20 of them. Thats if you want an MDX wheel or an 08 non pax touring wheel.
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Honda PAX/Michelin Class Action Lawsuit by gary_mag
Jul 07, 2008 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: smlycat (Apr 04, 2008 7:00 am)

Can someone please send me the contact information to join this class action lawsuit?
 
I am a Honda Odyssey 2005 owner and now needing to purchase a second set of PAX tires, with no options to purchase any other aftermarket tires -- this is ridiculous.
 
Thanks,
 
Gary
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Re: Honda PAX/Michelin Class Action Lawsuit [gary_mag] by shipo
Jul 07, 2008 (6:10 pm)
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Replying to: gary_mag (Jul 07, 2008 4:40 pm)

Rumor has it that College Hills Honda has developed (or is developing) a PAX swap-out kit, complete with wheels, TPMS sensors and tires. You might want to give them a call.
 
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: NY Times PAX Announcement [shipo] by dmayes
Jul 12, 2008 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 25, 2008 5:04 pm)

I just swapped out my PAX system tires on my 2005 Honda Odyssey Touring for conventional tires and rims. I replaced them with 16" rims and Goodyear Assurance Comfortred tires, size 235/65R16". Ordered from TireRack.com, cost me $804.00 plus shipping, had them installed a couple of days ago for $115 at NTB. The TPMS system was transferred to the new rims and is working properly. I love the ride. The van drives much smoother. I did notice a slight difference in the feel of the steering. It's a smoother, maybe lighter feel, not to sure yet. Handling I think is better. I'll keep you posted, since its only been a couple of days. I am so happy I made the switch, I am no longer in bondage with Honda tires.
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Re: NY Times PAX Announcement [dmayes] by shipo
Jul 12, 2008 (9:07 am)
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Replying to: dmayes (Jul 12, 2008 8:07 am)

Congratulations on the successful "upgrade". That said, I guess you didn't get the memo, Honda says that by doing what you did, you're van is going to suffer in both the ride and the handling deparment. Personally I don't believe a word of that.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Depax kit [rv65] by barrylyon
Aug 05, 2008 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: rv65 (Jun 27, 2008 5:32 pm)

I also would like to get any information about being included in the law suit. And any information about the De-Pax Kit.
 
Thanks,
Barry
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Re: NY Times PAX Announcement [dmayes] by barrylyon
Aug 05, 2008 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: dmayes (Jul 12, 2008 8:07 am)

How has that worked out over the last month?
 
Keeping the TPMS system active seems tricky?
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Re: Depax kit [barrylyon] by rv65
Aug 05, 2008 (3:56 pm)
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Replying to: barrylyon (Aug 05, 2008 2:40 pm)

Click on my profile and email me for more info. This kit is expensive but does do the job nicely. There are tons of wheel designs that you can choose from. The ugly imo 05-06 EX/EX-L, 08 non PAX touring, and finally the MDX wheels just to name a few. Hope this helps.
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Re: NY Times PAX Announcement [dmayes] by bill517
Aug 11, 2008 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: dmayes (Jul 12, 2008 8:07 am)

I swapped out my PAX tires with Goodyear tires and Honda wheels. However the Goodyear dealer was told that the TPMS senders would not fit on the rims. What type rims did you buy?
 
I am pleased with the softer ride and better feel of the road.

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