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Re: PAX /run flat tire [shipo]
by fountane
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Apr 16, 2008 (11:12 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Apr 15, 2008 7:27 pm)
Tks for your info. So I can go ahead to get ADW.
Regards/Fountane
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Re: PAX /run flat tire [jeffreyh2]
by fountane
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Apr 16, 2008 (11:15 pm)
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Replying to: jeffreyh2 (Apr 16, 2008 5:07 pm)
Did you mean Honda's PAX is completely different to Toyota's RFT?
Regards/Fountane
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Re: PAX /run flat tire [fountane]
by shipo
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Apr 17, 2008 (3:18 am)
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Replying to: fountane (Apr 16, 2008 11:15 pm)
The RFTs used on the Honda Odyssey vans is the now defunct PAX system, a system that is completely incompatible with every other tire system on the planet. Toyota has chosen to use conventional RFTs (the same as BMW and other non-Honda RFT applications), and these tires mount up to the same type of rim as do good old fashioned GFTs. Said another way, where the Honda/PAX system will typically cost you over $400 per tire for a replacement, the RFTs that Toyota uses will set you back about half of that. The good news here is that since Toyota uses wheels that can use GFTs, you can opt for the best set of tires that meet the needs of your personal driving environment.
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: PAX /run flat tire [shipo]
by cccompson
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Apr 17, 2008 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Apr 17, 2008 3:18 am)
Your assertion that PAX "typically cost" over $400 per tire is misleading. That some have been charged that (or more) is indisputable. However, there is great variation in pricing. The last quote I got was $995 at a Honda store for a set of 4 installed.
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Re: PAX /run flat tire [shipo]
by fountane
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Apr 17, 2008 (4:24 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Apr 17, 2008 3:18 am)
tks shipo.
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Re: PAX /run flat tire [cccompson]
by shipo
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Apr 17, 2008 (7:54 pm)
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Replying to: cccompson (Apr 17, 2008 1:02 pm)
I'm sorry, I absolutely disagree with your statement that over $400 per tire is misleading, if anything, your quote for ~$224 is the one that is disingenuous. That you might have gotten a low ball quote doesn't in any way mean that the rest of the folks out there can duplicate the price you were quoted. I mean, come on, you've read the posts that have been put up on this board and you know very well that ~$400 per tire is very common, and pity the folks that need one or two due to a road hazard, often times they've reported nearly twice that.
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Re: PAX /run flat tire [shipo]
by cccompson
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Apr 18, 2008 (9:07 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Apr 17, 2008 7:54 pm)
How using a real figure (not a "lowball quote" - I contacted three or four local stores and that was the lowest number, $1600 was the highest) to illustrate a point is "disingenuous" is beyond me. Didn't claim it was typical, just that it was an example that pricing does vary.
And, no, don't recall anybody ever (much less "often times") posting anything close to your $800 number for a PAX tire, either here or on the Ody Club website.
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Re: PAX /run flat tire [cccompson]
by shipo
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Apr 18, 2008 (8:17 pm)
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Replying to: cccompson (Apr 18, 2008 9:07 am)
"And, no, don't recall anybody ever (much less "often times") posting anything close to your $800 number for a PAX tire, either here or on the Ody Club website."
I do, here's one example: http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef3f1cf/699
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Re: PAX /run flat tire [shipo]
by cccompson
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Apr 18, 2008 (9:04 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Apr 18, 2008 8:17 pm)
$600 is just as close to $400 as it is to $800.
Additionally, the present relevance of market conditions 18 months ago is questionable at best.
Just ask..most any homeowner.
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Re: PAX /run flat tire [cccompson]
by shipo
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Apr 18, 2008 (9:38 pm)
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Replying to: cccompson (Apr 18, 2008 9:04 pm)
There are plenty of other examples, that just happened to be the first one that I found. I'll poke around a bit tomorrow and report back. Either way, some dealers really stick it to the person in need, others don't, and if you're on a trip, pick up a nasty nail and really need a single new tire, Murphy suggests that you're not going to get a good price on one, errr, that is if you can find one.
Given that PAX has finally been certified as a bankrupt technology, that problem is only likely to get worse as Michelin gradually decreases the number of PAX tires they make. I look at it this way, one of our vans is ten years old, and I can buy a full set of tires for it for less than $500 out the door. How much is it going to cost an owner of a PAX Ody for a set of tires in ten years? I'm thinking a lot. 
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