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#1327 of 2364 Re: Disappointed [georgek]
Feb 18, 2006 (2:42 pm)
I haven't driven the Saab wagon (and even though it is not American-engineered, I want nothing to do with anything remotely *associated* with GM after seeing that ultra-stupid HUMMER commercial aired during the Super Bowl).
However, I did stop by a nearby VW dealer today specifically to see one of the two Passat 2.0 wagons that appeared this week (there were none last week). They weren't busy (presumably because it was only 10 degrees F outside this morning) so a salesman offered to let me take a test drive.
I currently own a 2004 Explorer V8 which I am looking forward to trading....and I could not believe the "go" on this 4-cylinder vehicle. I love the look and love the features...although I think I'll head toward the 3.6L when the time comes to get the "goodies"...only because there's a limit to options available on the 2.0 (no "coming home" feature, for example).
I'm a little discouraged that I end up in the $40K MSRP range to build the car I want, but I'm hooked. The Passat Wagon is definitely a contender.
#1328 of 2364 Re: Disappointed [jimd4]
Feb 18, 2006 (3:31 pm)
And VW is in such great shape? Don't kid yourself! It has been in trouble for quite a while. No surprise if you consider that government partially owns them (Lower Saxony Land to be exact) and last year entire profit was brought by their smallest division - Audi.
I understand one can like one car more or one company, but I would not be putting VAG as a poster child of profitability/good corporate governance/good organization when comparing with GM. In fact, VAG is exactly Germany's GM.
#1329 of 2364 Automotive economics
Feb 18, 2006 (4:20 pm)
There are very few cars you can buy with the assurance the the manufacturer will be around in a few years. Toyota, Honda and possibly Hyundai come to mind.
Also, things can change rapidly. After being bailed out by your tax dollars and mine, Chrysler was bought by Daimler Benz, then one of the most profitable car companies. Last year it was the Chrysler division that drove profits.
In the meantime, I want a midsize wagon that is roomy, fun to drive and does not cost $50-60K. That pretty much narrows it down to VW, SAAB, Mazda and Subaru.
The Subaru GT and Outback XT are cramped and have little front seat leg room. The numbers may look good, but I'm 5'9" and can't stretch out in the passenger seat; my slim 6' wife must ride with her knees in the air. (Her Volvo XC70 is roomy and very comfortable, but it would be a stretch to call it fun to drive, ditto the regular V70. The Mazda 6 and the Jaguar X Type(Ford Mondeo)looked appealing to me until I looked up the IHS crash tests.
That leaves the Passat and the SAAB 9-5. It astounds me that VW would introduce a new Passat that is cruder, noisier and cheaper-looking inside than the last one. Even though the 9-5 is an aging design, the 2006 update has kept it competitive, IMO. Priced closer to the 2.0T but with the luxury goodies of the 3.6 it made more sense to me than buying another Passat.
I love my 2000GLS. It has been reliable, fun to drive and very practical, but at 170K it is time for it to go.
#1330 of 2364 New Passat Owner's Concerns
Feb 18, 2006 (5:07 pm)
Just wanted to drop a note to inform you all of my recent impressions of my '06 VW Passat 3.6 with Luxury Package 2. They are as follows (there is NO particular significant offer):
1. The brake and gas pedals are a bit too close.
2. The fact the headlight washer must always be activated when I use the windshield washer is a bit too much...in consuming windshield fluid.
3. There is a bit of a lag or "gap" between a complete stop and acceleration, especially when you are coasting to a stop sign then press the gas pedal.
4. The car could use another trip meter...I had two trip meters on my previous car ('02 Mazda Protege5) before a someone neglected to yield before taking a left turn (into me).
5. The floor mats (4) that came along with the car keeps wrinkling up and can become a hazard (it surprises me to see something so cheap and "flimsy" on a car of this caliper, but at least it matches the car's carpeting.
6. The arm rest on which all the window controls and outside side mirrors are on seems unstable...hoping it won't fall off in a few years.
7. The fuel sticker on the fuel door is in German...but I managed to make out that the car requires Premium fuel...I think. It states "91" but we here in Maryland don't have that. Any suggestions and recommendation from other '06 Passat 3.6 would be useful.
8. The car could use a "cool" ventilation feature to supplement its heated seat feature... like the IS 250 AWD I tested.
9. The ability to do more with the controls on the steering wheel. For example, changing from FM1 to FM2 without going through the entire option line and also the adjusting of the climate control.)
10. Have the entire interior driver information and console areas be in blue lighting, instead of the two (blue and red). Why if the Germans through their research found that blue is better for the eyes in night time driving, combine the two colors? To make it 50% better?
11. The location and placement of the battery and the fuse box is in the trunk. Why?
12. The low air in the tire monitor should indicate which of the four tires is low. Not just low and then up to the driver to find the low tire.
Well, that's all for now during my 1,350 miles of this new Passat. Please feel free to reply with suggestions, recommendations, and other inputs. Thanks for you time!
#1331 of 2364 Re: Disappointed [georgek]
Feb 18, 2006 (6:23 pm)
Look below the post box and you'll see an icon "
ABC". I think you must have hit that accidentally. This is what is does when you use it.
To remove them, you would have needed to edit your post and remove the codes at the beginning and the end of the mark through lines.
No worries - we can read it!!
#1332 of 2364 Re: New Passat Owner's Concerns [jpi2]
Feb 18, 2006 (7:48 pm)
For one to have so many concerns, didn't you take the majority of them into consideration BEFORE you purchased your Passat? I mean, you did take a test drive and go over the specs right?
#1333 of 2364 Re: Disappointed [dino001]
Feb 19, 2006 (9:40 am)
As a long time Audi owner here..........keep dreaming
#1334 of 2364 '06 Passat Oil. Syn Blend or Full Syn?
Feb 19, 2006 (6:49 pm)
I called VW and get different answers on what kind of oil does my '06 Passat comes with. They all give me different answers. I dont' know if I should use standard oil sae 5-40w, synth blend 5-40 or full syn 5-40. Does anyone know what is the required oil for the 2.05T Passat.
#1335 of 2364 Re: '06 Passat Oil. Syn Blend or Full Syn? [americanyon]
Feb 19, 2006 (7:28 pm)
"Does anyone know what is the required oil for the 2.05T Passat."
The ONLY oils that you can use in your Turbocharged 2.0 Passat are ones that meet the VW 502.00/505.00/503.01 specifications for oil. Period, full stop, the end. While I'm sure that there are others out there on the market, the only two that I'm aware of are the Mobil-1 0W-40 (and only the 0W-40), and the German Castrol Syntech 0W-30 (and only the 0W-30 that says "Made in Germany" on the label). Those oils are fully synthetic and meet virtually every new car oil spec from every major manufacturer (some exotics like the BMW M3 are among the few exceptions).
Said another way, if you don't use a fully synthetic oil that meets the VW oil specs, count on either a turbo replacement (from bearing failure due to oil coking) and/or a complete engine replacement (due to engine sludging).
If anybody tells you different, don't walk, run away as fast as you can.
#1336 of 2364 it looks like
Feb 20, 2006 (5:49 am)
1.8T sludge fiasco did not teach some people anything.