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Land Rover Range Rover Sport, SUV
#38 of 668 New Range Rover Sport
Apr 04, 2005 (5:33 pm)
The 2006 Range Rover Sport will use the new LR3's chassis
The LR3 has an...
"Integrated body frame is just a fancy way of saying that the LR3's traditional ladder frame is aided in crash-worthiness by a body that has almost unibodylike strength. In most typical body-on-frame designs, the frame provides all the strength while the bolted-on body simply holds the passengers. The LR3's body, though, has extra strong sills that literally envelope its frame. So closely does it wrap around, in fact, that in the case of an accident, the body is forced into the frame rails greatly adding to its strength. Land Rover says that this significantly increases resistance during offset crashes, the common bugaboo of body-on-frame designs."
The 300 hp 4.4 V-8 used in the LR3 is based on Jaguar's 4.2 V-8 but modified for off-road duty. Jaguar's V-8 is not a Ford V-8. Jaguar's 4.2 liter V-8 does not have the potential timing chain tensioner or nikasil problems of the 4.0 liter V-8 from the 1997-2000 XK8.
Check this link:
#39 of 668 Tires and Wheels on Supercharged - Off road use?
Apr 04, 2005 (6:41 pm)
Are the tires and wheels (20") planned for the Supercharged Sport suitable for off road use? The low profile tires on my Mercedes S500 seem to work wonderfully on the road, though they wear out in 20k miles or less. And the tread design is anything but even "mud and snow." Will that be the case for the tires on the Supercharged Sport? Are these same profile tires offered on any Land Rover vehicle, and if so what is the experience with them off road?
Would a Supercharged Sport used for off road be better equipped with the standard tires and wheels of the regular Sport model?
#41 of 668 cruel joke
Apr 05, 2005 (6:45 am)
Saw the Sport at the NYC show this past weekend. Was very impressed inside and out. HOWEVER, just saw the performance(or lack thereof) numbers and if correct this vehicle is a terrible joke. SUVs costing 1/2 as much as the 70k supercharged sport are as fast if not faster. If correct, the Sport is not a serious threat to anything except a select few pocketbooks.
#42 of 668 Re: cruel joke [madlaw]
Apr 06, 2005 (2:37 pm)
..I also checked out the RR Sport at the NY auto show this past weekend, and was surprisingly underwelmed by the vehicle. I thought I would like it more up close and personal. I thought it was a slam dunk as my next vehicle, now there is definetly doubt on my part (or ho-hum) regarding interior styling/layout/cargo particularly ..and the performance numbers as stated don't astound.
One positive is that it did re-affirm my lust for the current RR exterior styling.
#43 of 668 hmm
Apr 07, 2005 (2:06 pm)
Get a new Dodge Magnum SRT8 if you want speed and cargo room.
#44 of 668 Re: New Range Rover Sport [xkss]
Apr 08, 2005 (6:57 pm)
XKSS, I beg to differ with you. Sure, the engine now used by Rover is not the Jag V8 of yesteryear with the nikasil liner problems, but it IS a Ford V8 derived engine. Its basic architecture, bore centers, main line to fire deck surface dimension etc. are similar to the Ford V8. Naturally, most of the moving parts are different and the hang on accessories like the fuel system and electricals are all different but the basic lines came from Ford. No harm in any of this and probably it kept the initial development costs down.
Moreover, the V12 used by Aston is in a very basic sense, two V6 (Duratec?) Ford blocks bolted together. Now, I don't mean to imply that the V6 Taurus engine is simply 50% of the engine in a Vanquish and that your local junk yard could be a source of Aston Martin engine cores. But, when stripped of all internals and accessories, they are very similar. Before anyone gets angry at Aston for bolting two sixes together, this is an accepted practice in the engine world, and Detroit Diesel has done it for years.
#45 of 668 Re: New Range Rover Sport [blckislandguy]
Apr 08, 2005 (8:58 pm)
Do you or anyone else have anything specific about the Jaguar V8's origins? I know the Aston V12 started out as two Duratec V6s, but I always thought the Jaguar V8 was of their own creation - totally seperate of any Ford V8?
#46 of 668 Re: New Range Rover Sport [blckislandguy]
Apr 10, 2005 (10:26 pm)
Jaguar's V-8 is NOT a Ford-derived engine. Read this link:
You can email the people at that site to confirm what I have said.
Not to be rude, but have you heard an Aston Martin DB9's V-12?
One Aston Martin DBR9 won the 12 Hours of Sebring (GT1 class) last month for the first time since 1956.
The following is from http://astonmartins.com/db7/db7_v12_vantage.htm:
(Tim, who runs that site, would know a thing or two about Aston Martins)
"The 6.0 litre, 48 valve, all-alloy, 60º V12 engine delivers 420 bhp and 400lbs ft of torque. Developed in close co-operation with the Ford Research and Vehicle Technology Group and Cosworth Technology, the V12 was designed to operate at a maximum speed of 7000rpm, features four valves per cylinder, twin overhead camshafts for each bank of cylinders and a sophisticated Visteon electronic management system."
Apr 10, 2005 (10:59 pm)
IMO the Aston-Martin DB9 is the most beautiful production car in the world today!