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You are in the Chevrolet Cobalt
What is this discussion about?
Chevrolet Cobalt, Ford Focus, Sedan
#37 of 76 mdaffron - here are the numbers
Aug 10, 2005 (8:19 am)
I guess the moral to the story is, bring some numbers with you next time.
Mazda 3i [2.0 liter] 144hp/135tq
Cobalt [2.2 liter] 145hp/155tq (obviously a big advantage here)
Mazda 3s [2.3 liter] 160hp/150tq (less than the base Cobalt)
Cobalt SS[2.4 liter] 170hp/170tq (to be released)
Mazdaspeed 3 [???] ???hp (to be released)
Cobalt SS S/C [2.0 liter] 205hp/200tq
So there are the numbers - the Cobalt wins on power easily (it also weighs an extra hundred pounds). Is it the better car or the better performer - different discussion. These are just the numbers.
#38 of 76 And on that note
Aug 11, 2005 (11:10 am)
let's drop the Mazdas from this conversation since they are not part of the topic.
#39 of 76 Focus or Cobalt?
Aug 12, 2005 (12:33 pm)
I had a 2000 Focus and loved it, but totalled it in a wreck and I replaced it with a Cobalt. Although I loved the Focus, I have found that the Cobalt is a much smoother, quieter, solid car. Very comfortable, and gets better gas milege than the Focus. I went into the Cobalt because of the employee discount deals, which Ford now also has, but didn't at that time, or I may have bought a new Focus, but am really glad that I tried the Cobalt. The only thing I don't like about the Cobalt is that the trunk opening is small. It has an ample trunk but the opening is small and higher than the Focus, so it is hard to get something big and heavy in by myself.
#40 of 76 Cobalt vs. Focus...but what about the Ion?
Aug 18, 2005 (8:25 pm)
I've never owned a domestic car, but I actually like the Cobalt. I think it's decent looking (especially compared to the Cavalier) and the interior is a huge improvement for GM. The Focus is really looking old to me. The new Focus interior helps some, but not enough. Also, I hate that only the ST has the 2.3L and all the others have the weak 2.0L. At least on the Cobalt they offer a choice of the 2.2L with 145hp or 2.4L with 171hp.
The forgotten domestic subcompact seems to be the Ion. It's a little cheaper than the Cobalt with the same drivetrain on the same platform. I think it looks better than the Cobalt, but you do have to contend with the center mounted instruments. Sadly, when the introduced it in '03 it was only half-baked. Improvements for '05 has actually made it competitive but no one really seems to notice.
Nov 02, 2005 (8:37 am)
My daughter is buying her first car. Unfortunately neither she nor I know anything about these two. What is the bottom line? we are looking for cheap but dependable transportation. she has to buy an American car (for work related reasons) and these are the two we have come down to. Are either one dependable?
#42 of 76 Re: focus v cobalt [welcenbach]
Nov 02, 2005 (4:52 pm)
are you looking to buy new or used? what has she been driving?
Nov 05, 2005 (9:02 am)
Ford would offer the 2.3 as standard and as an automatic in the Focus.. This would change everything. ..
#44 of 76 Re: Only if [scape2]
Nov 17, 2005 (1:59 pm)
I believe the 2.3 in the Focus is the same 2.3 in the Mazda 3 which does not get very good gas mileage if that is important to you.
#45 of 76 Cobalt vs. Focus vs Mazda 3
Nov 17, 2005 (2:07 pm)
The host asked not to bring in the Mazda 3, so maybe a Mazda 3 vs. the Cobalt. As for the Mazda 3 check out the Forum and go to "owner problems and solutions" which might answer some of the reliabilty issues some have brought up here in previous posts.
#46 of 76 Problems and Solutions
Nov 17, 2005 (2:10 pm)
How come no "Problems and Solutions" section for the Cobalt? None to report?